The Ukraine war thread

Axtremus

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

The phone calls are harrowing.

Behind the NYT paywall, but another source, quoting the article said that these calls were from MARCH. Can you imagine what it's like now?

Yes, indeed those phone calls were from the early part of the war.

Mik

If you are on Edge you can read it in reader mode.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

Latest word is that Putin plans to deliver (another) speech on Sept 30. On that occasion, he will announce the results of the (cough) referendum in the Eastern states, and therefore justification for annexation of those areas.

Once those are part of "Russia," escalation, either by more mobilization or by use of different weaponry will be on the table. After all, the Motherland is being attacked, dontcha know.

Kremlin says Putin will sign ‘treaties’ to annex Ukrainian regions

The move, in defiance of stern international warnings including from President Biden, potentially slams the door on diplomacy for years to come, and almost certainly assures further escalation of the war in Ukraine, with Kyiv insisting it will fight to reclaim all of its lands and Western allies promising to send more weapons and economic assistance.

Putin’s recent declaration of a partial military mobilization, intended to activate hundreds of thousands of reinforcements for deployment to Ukraine, and the sabotage this week of two Nord Stream natural gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea have raised fears that the Russian leader is readying for a long hybrid conflict with NATO. Russian officials have also warned that it could use a nuclear weapon to defend the Ukrainian territories once they are absorbed into Russia.>
Putin’s move, which is a blatant violation of international law, will further isolate Russia, triggering new Western sanctions. But Putin nonetheless appears to hope that a long, brutal war will eventually fray Western support for Ukraine and curtail military and economic aid that is providing a lifeline to Kyiv.

Jolly

I said earlier I thought we should take in some Ukranian refugees.

Should we take in some Russian ones, also?

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

On Joe Rogan, Dave Smith talks about why Russia invaded Ukraine.

I have no idea who Smith is, by the way.

Link to video

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

Well...

Renauda

@George-K

Yes, the risk is high that Putin will deploy one or more tactical nukes. Tomorrow’s annexation of Ukrainian territory will provide the convenient rationale.

The US and NATO will respond accordingly should a Russian nuclear demonstration occur. The Cold War doctrine of Flexible Response will determine the actions of the Alliance.

Jolly

@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

@George-K

Yes, the risk is high that Putin will deploy one or more tactical nukes. Tomorrow’s annexation of Ukrainian territory will provide the convenient rationale.

The US and NATO will respond accordingly should a Russian nuclear demonstration occur. The Cold War doctrine of Flexible Response will determine the actions of the Alliance.

Dumbest thing he could do.