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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
    wrote on last edited by
    #745

    And in case you're wondering, Dnipro is pronounced NEE-pro, more or less. The Slavik (?) guy explaining the pronunciation says that you can "almost ignore the D although it is there."

    You know, in case you are gripped with a compulsion to rush over there and help, and need to ask directions to the NEE-pro River.

    Be careful who you ask, though.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #746

      I'm sorry, we don't serve Dnipros.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        I'm sorry, we don't serve Dnipros.

        jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #747

        @Mik That’s Dracist.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
          wrote on last edited by
          #748

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          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by George K
            #749

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            Someone commented, "You know the war is going badly when leadership sidelines the people in charge and takes direct command."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @Mik That’s Dracist.

              MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #750

              @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @Mik That’s Dracist.

              What? Ukrainian is not a race.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 26 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                "Russian forces did not make any claimed or assessed territorial gains in Ukraine on August 26, 2022, for the first time since August 18, 2022. However, Russian forces still conducted limited and unsuccessful ground attacks on the Eastern Axis on August 26.

                "The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) stated that unspecified actors (but almost certainly Russian forces) reconnected part of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) to the Ukrainian power grid on August 26."

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                Catseye3
                wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                #751

                From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 30 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                "Ukrainian forces began striking Russian pontoon ferries across the Dnipro River on August 29, which is consistent with the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. The effects of destroying ferries will likely be more ephemeral than those of putting bridges out of commission, so attacking them makes sense in conjunction with active ground operations. Ukrainian military officials confirmed that Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian pontoon-ferry crossing in Lvove, approximately 16km west of Nova Kakhovka on the right bank of the Dnipro River on August 29. Ukrainian and Russian sources have also reported that Ukrainian forces struck a pontoon crossing constructed out of barges near the Antonivsky Road Bridge."

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #752

                  An army without supplies is just a campout.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    An army without supplies is just a campout.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #753

                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

                    There.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                    RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                    • George KG George K

                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

                      There.

                      RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #754

                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

                      There.

                      I would suggest that it is a camped out mob spiralling into anarchy.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #755

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #756

                          @George-K

                          Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #757

                            Maybe this deserves its own thread, but....

                            Russian oil chief Maganov dies in 'fall from hospital window'

                            *Several Russian energy oligarchs have died in unusual circumstances in recent months:

                            The body of millionaire Novatek former manager Sergei Protosenya was found alongside his wife and daughter at a Spanish villa in April
                            A former vice-president of Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev, was found dead with his wife and daughter in their Moscow flat, also in April
                            In May, a former Lukoil tycoon Alexander Subbotin died of heart failure, reportedly after seeking alternative treatment from a shaman.*

                            I was only joking

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                            • Catseye3C Offline
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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                              #758

                              "The company confirmed his death but said only that Maganov, 67, had "passed away following a severe illness".

                              Acute defenestrationitis.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @George-K

                                Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

                                Catseye3C Offline
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                                Catseye3
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #759

                                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

                                Cats, writing down mudak.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  Maybe this deserves its own thread, but....

                                  Russian oil chief Maganov dies in 'fall from hospital window'

                                  *Several Russian energy oligarchs have died in unusual circumstances in recent months:

                                  The body of millionaire Novatek former manager Sergei Protosenya was found alongside his wife and daughter at a Spanish villa in April
                                  A former vice-president of Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev, was found dead with his wife and daughter in their Moscow flat, also in April
                                  In May, a former Lukoil tycoon Alexander Subbotin died of heart failure, reportedly after seeking alternative treatment from a shaman.*

                                  RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #760

                                  @Doctor-Phibes

                                  Maganov? I probably met him back in the 90’s when he was head of production and we had fracking crews working on LUKOil sites. His face looks familiar from the photos I’ve seen. I think he was originally Gen. Directir of Langepasneft before LUKOil was formed in the early ‘90s.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                    From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 30 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                    "Ukrainian forces began striking Russian pontoon ferries across the Dnipro River on August 29, which is consistent with the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. The effects of destroying ferries will likely be more ephemeral than those of putting bridges out of commission, so attacking them makes sense in conjunction with active ground operations. Ukrainian military officials confirmed that Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian pontoon-ferry crossing in Lvove, approximately 16km west of Nova Kakhovka on the right bank of the Dnipro River on August 29. Ukrainian and Russian sources have also reported that Ukrainian forces struck a pontoon crossing constructed out of barges near the Antonivsky Road Bridge."

                                    Catseye3C Offline
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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #761

                                    From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 1 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                    "Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated his false framing of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine as a defensive operation to protect Russia on September 1. During a meeting with schoolchildren in Kaliningrad, Putin stated that the purpose of the “special military operation” is to eliminate the “anti-Russian enclave” that is forming in Ukraine and is an existential threat to the Russian state. Putin similarly invoked the concept of an “anti-Russia” in his February 24 speech declaring a “special operation” in Ukraine. Putin’s reiteration of an “anti-Russian” entity that must be defeated militarily to defend Russia reaffirms his maximalist intentions for Ukraine and is likely intended to set the information conditions to call for further Russian efforts and force generation going into the fall and winter of this year."

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #762

                                      A couple of days ago, Biden asked for another $11B and change for the Ukranians.

                                      With a worsening economy, how much longer can we throw money into the Ukranian war effort?

                                      Can Putin wait us out?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #763

                                        Maybe if we quit throwing money away relieving perfectly good debt....

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 1 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                          "Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated his false framing of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine as a defensive operation to protect Russia on September 1. During a meeting with schoolchildren in Kaliningrad, Putin stated that the purpose of the “special military operation” is to eliminate the “anti-Russian enclave” that is forming in Ukraine and is an existential threat to the Russian state. Putin similarly invoked the concept of an “anti-Russia” in his February 24 speech declaring a “special operation” in Ukraine. Putin’s reiteration of an “anti-Russian” entity that must be defeated militarily to defend Russia reaffirms his maximalist intentions for Ukraine and is likely intended to set the information conditions to call for further Russian efforts and force generation going into the fall and winter of this year."

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                                          Catseye3
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #764

                                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 2 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                          "Russian independent polling organization Levada posted survey results on September 1 indicating that while the majority of Russians still support military operations in Ukraine, public support for the war may be gradually declining."

                                          HOO-yah!

                                          "Levada stated that the overall support for Russian forces in Ukraine has not changed significantly over the summer, with 76% of the survey’s respondents in favor of the action of Russian forces in Ukraine . . . The polls showed that 44% of respondents were in favor of peace negotiations and that a majority of Russia’s younger segments of the population (18-39-year-olds) favor negotiations. . . . In March of 2022, Levada found that 53% of respondents strongly support Russian military actions in Ukraine but that the percentage of respondents in this category declined to 46% by August.

                                          "This is a minor deterioration and will not fundamentally impair the Kremlin’s ability to conduct the war. However, declining support and war weariness will likely increasingly impede Russian recruitment and force generation efforts."

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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