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    George K
    wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 15:53 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 18:19 last edited by
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      Lots of updates here. Looks like there's some serious stuff going on.

      https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/08/29/ukrainian-troops-launched-counteroffensive-in-kherson-oblast-media/

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 18:43 last edited by
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        Not sure this will help, but here's a bit clearer map of where the Dnipro River is:

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        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          Catseye3
          wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 19:08 last edited by
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          And in case you're wondering, Dnipro is pronounced NEE-pro, more or less. The Slavik (?) guy explaining the pronunciation says that you can "almost ignore the D although it is there."

          You know, in case you are gripped with a compulsion to rush over there and help, and need to ask directions to the NEE-pro River.

          Be careful who you ask, though.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            Mik
            wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 19:36 last edited by
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            I'm sorry, we don't serve Dnipros.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              29 Aug 2022, 19:36

              I'm sorry, we don't serve Dnipros.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 19:41 last edited by
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              @Mik That’s Dracist.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Catseye3
                wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 19:49 last edited by
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                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  George K
                  wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 23:16 last edited by George K
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                  image.jpeg

                  Someone commented, "You know the war is going badly when leadership sidelines the people in charge and takes direct command."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    29 Aug 2022, 19:41

                    @Mik That’s Dracist.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 23:40 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    @Mik That’s Dracist.

                    What? Ukrainian is not a race.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      27 Aug 2022, 12:07

                      From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 26 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                      "Russian forces did not make any claimed or assessed territorial gains in Ukraine on August 26, 2022, for the first time since August 18, 2022. However, Russian forces still conducted limited and unsuccessful ground attacks on the Eastern Axis on August 26.

                      "The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) stated that unspecified actors (but almost certainly Russian forces) reconnected part of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) to the Ukrainian power grid on August 26."

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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 13:54 last edited by Catseye3
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                      From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 30 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                      "Ukrainian forces began striking Russian pontoon ferries across the Dnipro River on August 29, which is consistent with the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. The effects of destroying ferries will likely be more ephemeral than those of putting bridges out of commission, so attacking them makes sense in conjunction with active ground operations. Ukrainian military officials confirmed that Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian pontoon-ferry crossing in Lvove, approximately 16km west of Nova Kakhovka on the right bank of the Dnipro River on August 29. Ukrainian and Russian sources have also reported that Ukrainian forces struck a pontoon crossing constructed out of barges near the Antonivsky Road Bridge."

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 13:56 last edited by
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                        An army without supplies is just a campout.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • M Mik
                          31 Aug 2022, 13:56

                          An army without supplies is just a campout.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 14:13 last edited by
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                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

                          There.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            31 Aug 2022, 14:13

                            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

                            There.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 15:18 last edited by
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                            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

                            There.

                            I would suggest that it is a camped out mob spiralling into anarchy.

                            Elbows up!

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                              George K
                              wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 23:46 last edited by
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                31 Aug 2022, 23:46

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 23:47 last edited by
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                                @George-K

                                Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 1 Sept 2022, 11:24 last edited by
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                                  Maybe this deserves its own thread, but....

                                  Russian oil chief Maganov dies in 'fall from hospital window'

                                  *Several Russian energy oligarchs have died in unusual circumstances in recent months:

                                  The body of millionaire Novatek former manager Sergei Protosenya was found alongside his wife and daughter at a Spanish villa in April
                                  A former vice-president of Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev, was found dead with his wife and daughter in their Moscow flat, also in April
                                  In May, a former Lukoil tycoon Alexander Subbotin died of heart failure, reportedly after seeking alternative treatment from a shaman.*

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on 1 Sept 2022, 11:51 last edited by Catseye3 9 Jan 2022, 13:41
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                                    "The company confirmed his death but said only that Maganov, 67, had "passed away following a severe illness".

                                    Acute defenestrationitis.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      31 Aug 2022, 23:47

                                      @George-K

                                      Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

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                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on 1 Sept 2022, 12:12 last edited by
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                                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

                                      Cats, writing down mudak.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        1 Sept 2022, 11:24

                                        Maybe this deserves its own thread, but....

                                        Russian oil chief Maganov dies in 'fall from hospital window'

                                        *Several Russian energy oligarchs have died in unusual circumstances in recent months:

                                        The body of millionaire Novatek former manager Sergei Protosenya was found alongside his wife and daughter at a Spanish villa in April
                                        A former vice-president of Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev, was found dead with his wife and daughter in their Moscow flat, also in April
                                        In May, a former Lukoil tycoon Alexander Subbotin died of heart failure, reportedly after seeking alternative treatment from a shaman.*

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 2 Sept 2022, 00:38 last edited by Renauda 9 Feb 2022, 00:46
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes

                                        Maganov? I probably met him back in the 90’s when he was head of production and we had fracking crews working on LUKOil sites. His face looks familiar from the photos I’ve seen. I think he was originally Gen. Directir of Langepasneft before LUKOil was formed in the early ‘90s.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • C Catseye3
                                          31 Aug 2022, 13:54

                                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 30 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                          "Ukrainian forces began striking Russian pontoon ferries across the Dnipro River on August 29, which is consistent with the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. The effects of destroying ferries will likely be more ephemeral than those of putting bridges out of commission, so attacking them makes sense in conjunction with active ground operations. Ukrainian military officials confirmed that Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian pontoon-ferry crossing in Lvove, approximately 16km west of Nova Kakhovka on the right bank of the Dnipro River on August 29. Ukrainian and Russian sources have also reported that Ukrainian forces struck a pontoon crossing constructed out of barges near the Antonivsky Road Bridge."

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                                          Catseye3
                                          wrote on 2 Sept 2022, 15:05 last edited by
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                                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 1 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                          "Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated his false framing of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine as a defensive operation to protect Russia on September 1. During a meeting with schoolchildren in Kaliningrad, Putin stated that the purpose of the “special military operation” is to eliminate the “anti-Russian enclave” that is forming in Ukraine and is an existential threat to the Russian state. Putin similarly invoked the concept of an “anti-Russia” in his February 24 speech declaring a “special operation” in Ukraine. Putin’s reiteration of an “anti-Russian” entity that must be defeated militarily to defend Russia reaffirms his maximalist intentions for Ukraine and is likely intended to set the information conditions to call for further Russian efforts and force generation going into the fall and winter of this year."

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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