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  • K Klaus
    7 May 2022, 09:15

    Who or what is RSOTM?

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    George K
    wrote on 7 May 2022, 11:24 last edited by
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    @Klaus said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Who or what is RSOTM?

    "Reverse Side Of The Medal."

    It's the face of the Wagner group.

    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2020/10/07/wagner-affiliated-channel-trolls-nagorno-karabakh-conflict-analysts/

    With a number of credible reports of foreign fighters engaged in the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh on behalf of Azerbaijan, a number of journalists and analysts have looked to one of the world’s most infamous private mercenary companies (PMC), Russia’s Wagner PMC, as a potential actor in the conflict. However, there has not been any firm evidence showing their arrival or involvement in the war which has rocked the South Caucasus since late September. In the search for potential evidence of Wagner’s involvement into the conflict, many have looked to Reverse Side of the Medal (RSOTM), one of the most public channels of communication used by fighters from Russia’s private military companies fighters, especially Wagner and those close to them.

    This group operates a Telegram channel, along with pages on Instagram, YouTube, and VKontakte (VK). The group’s most prominent administrator is Maksim Fomin, writing under the pseudonym “Vladlen Tatarsky” (taken from a novel by popular Russian writer Viktor Pelevin). Fomin previously fought in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine for the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR). Over the past week, this channel has shared a number of photographs alluding to the arrival of Russian mercenaries — with the Wagner group being the obvious candidate — to Nagorno-Karabakh to assist Armenian forces in their ongoing conflict with Azerbaijan.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 7 May 2022, 12:03 last edited by
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      Still unconfirmed...

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 7 May 2022, 12:42 last edited by
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 7 May 2022, 15:36 last edited by
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          On a lighter note:

          Putin dies and goes to hell. However, since he’s used to doing deals with devils, he manages to get a day off from torment and goes home to Moscow to enjoy Vodka and see how Russia is doing in his absence.

          The streets are clean, the shops are open, and people look well and relatively happy (for Russians). At the bar, he orders 3 Vodkas and sips them slowly, watching all the people nattering about sports and boasting about business, like the KGB spy he always was.

          Satisfied, Putin turns to the bartender and asks “how much for the drinks?”

          The bartender swiftly pulls out the cashless pay-terminal and tells him: “Five Euros”.

          Elbows up!

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            Jolly
            wrote on 7 May 2022, 17:01 last edited by
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            After the war, I'd certainly like Ukraine to reconstitute some of its navy, particularly submarines.. Germany builds a nice, stealthy boat...

            https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-germanys-new-super-stealth-submarines-could-take-any-21021

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • J Jolly
              7 May 2022, 17:01

              After the war, I'd certainly like Ukraine to reconstitute some of its navy, particularly submarines.. Germany builds a nice, stealthy boat...

              https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-germanys-new-super-stealth-submarines-could-take-any-21021

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              Copper
              wrote on 7 May 2022, 18:41 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Germany builds a nice, stealthy boat...

              So do we.

              On Thursday I played golf with a guy who puts the stealth goop coating on the Virginia-class boats that they build just down the street from here.

              These boats are not easy to find.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 7 May 2022, 18:52 last edited by
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                Doubt they could afford one and I suspect we ain't letting anybody have a nuclear sub.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 7 May 2022, 19:34 last edited by
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                  A cast of thousands...

                  https://nypost.com/2022/05/05/russians-to-dress-ukrainians-in-uniforms-for-mariupol-parade/

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 8 May 2022, 13:44 last edited by
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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 8 May 2022, 14:04 last edited by
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                      Is it Doctor First Lady or First Lady Doctor?

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 8 May 2022, 14:05 last edited by
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                        Well, it's not Doctor Doctor.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 8 May 2022, 14:11 last edited by
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                          I was going to ask 'so, who's going to find negative stuff to post about her qualifications?', but I thought it was overly snarky.

                          I was only joking

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            8 May 2022, 14:11

                            I was going to ask 'so, who's going to find negative stuff to post about her qualifications?', but I thought it was overly snarky.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 8 May 2022, 14:15 last edited by
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            I was going to ask 'so, who's going to find negative stuff to post about her qualifications?', but I thought it was overly snarky.

                            Already taken care of, my friend!

                            Please love yourself.

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                              8 May 2022, 13:44

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 8 May 2022, 14:20 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Clearly a provocation.

                              Just saying…..

                              Elbows up!

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 8 May 2022, 14:24 last edited by
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                                Low risk, high visibility. Ultimately rather silly. I doubt Ukrainian troops will be much impressed that he sent his wife.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  8 May 2022, 14:24

                                  Low risk, high visibility. Ultimately rather silly. I doubt Ukrainian troops will be much impressed that he sent his wife.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 8 May 2022, 14:26 last edited by Renauda 5 Aug 2022, 14:43
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                                  @Mik

                                  Ultimately rather silly.

                                  About as useful as Canada sending the Dauphin- which I understand is underway at the moment. Better to have sent just Chrystia and/or Anita.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • M Mik
                                    8 May 2022, 14:24

                                    Low risk, high visibility. Ultimately rather silly. I doubt Ukrainian troops will be much impressed that he sent his wife.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 8 May 2022, 14:26 last edited by
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                                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    Low risk, high visibility. Ultimately rather silly. I doubt Ukrainian troops will be much impressed that he sent his wife.

                                    Keeps the war on the front page, here and elsewhere, which is a good thing.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 8 May 2022, 15:48 last edited by
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                                      I suspect this did more for the Ukrainians than Jill.

                                      https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/u2-bono-the-edge-acoustic-set-kyiv-bomb-shelter-1350428/?fbclid=IwAR17hOKrVcVRkFYHIVjFbCahzH5GXoZOVC98gXYIa6Pzg8L5kC-UyCCzvQY

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 8 May 2022, 19:47 last edited by
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 8 May 2022, 19:49 last edited by
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                                          Haaahaahahha!

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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