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    George K
    wrote on 27 Apr 2022, 12:15 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      26 Apr 2022, 21:53

      Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

      Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

      United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

      U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

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      Mik
      wrote on 27 Apr 2022, 12:19 last edited by
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      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

      Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

      United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

      U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

      Doesn't this really smack of desperation on Russia's part?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        27 Apr 2022, 12:19

        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

        Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

        United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

        U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

        Doesn't this really smack of desperation on Russia's part?

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        George K
        wrote on 27 Apr 2022, 12:23 last edited by
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        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
        Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

        Doesn't this really smack of desperation on Russia's part?

        I think they've been threatening this since day 1 of the invasion.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Mik
          wrote on 27 Apr 2022, 13:08 last edited by
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          They have. I think it shows how few cards they have left to play. Which makes them more dangerous.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • G George K
            26 Apr 2022, 21:53

            Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

            Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

            United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

            U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 27 Apr 2022, 13:09 last edited by
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            @George-K

            Neither country appears to be at all concerned about this.

            Over the next few months a few of the bigger gas contracts with European states will come up for renewal. Should be entertaining to see what unfolds.

            Elbows up!

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            • R Renauda
              27 Apr 2022, 13:09

              @George-K

              Neither country appears to be at all concerned about this.

              Over the next few months a few of the bigger gas contracts with European states will come up for renewal. Should be entertaining to see what unfolds.

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              George K
              wrote on 27 Apr 2022, 13:10 last edited by
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              @Renauda I read that a pipeline to Poland will be completed by June from, I believe, Turkey.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                27 Apr 2022, 13:10

                @Renauda I read that a pipeline to Poland will be completed by June from, I believe, Turkey.

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                Renauda
                wrote on 27 Apr 2022, 13:27 last edited by Renauda
                #417

                @George-K

                Norway.

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe

                Elbows up!

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                  George K
                  wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 12:12 last edited by George K
                  #418

                  Later in the thread, it's mentioned that this is an "old" video - from mid-March, btw.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 13:17 last edited by
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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      28 Apr 2022, 13:17

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 13:31 last edited by
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                      @George-K

                      So she admits Mad Vlad is completely out of his tree.

                      We already knew that.

                      Elbows up!

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 14:13 last edited by
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                        I wonder if the military would comply if he ordered a nuclear strike.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          George K
                          wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 14:20 last edited by
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                          Interesting thread on "tactical" nukes.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 14:36 last edited by
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                            What are everyone's odds that Vlad launches nukes?

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • M Mik
                              28 Apr 2022, 14:13

                              I wonder if the military would comply if he ordered a nuclear strike.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 14:46 last edited by
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                              @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              I wonder if the military would comply if he ordered a nuclear strike.

                              Yes. You can be certain that the scenario(s) involving nukes have already been gamed out.

                              Elbows up!

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                                28 Apr 2022, 14:36

                                What are everyone's odds that Vlad launches nukes?

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 15:19 last edited by
                                #425

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                What are everyone's odds that Vlad launches nukes?

                                One in let’s hope not.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 12:13 last edited by
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                                  The Church Speaks:

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 12:21 last edited by
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                                    That doesn't seem very Christian.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • G George K
                                      29 Apr 2022, 12:13

                                      The Church Speaks:

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 13:51 last edited by
                                      #428

                                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      The Church Speaks:

                                      That has been circulating around here for the past week or so. Although I would not put it past the Moscow Patriarchate and some Orthodox prelates and priests to disseminate spew like this, it has not been reported outside of social media. I did some digging and found the following:

                                      https://orthochristian.com/145269.html

                                      My personal anti-clerical bias aside, I too would regard it as Fake until such time it can be corroborated by a credible third party agency.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • R Renauda
                                        29 Apr 2022, 13:51

                                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        The Church Speaks:

                                        That has been circulating around here for the past week or so. Although I would not put it past the Moscow Patriarchate and some Orthodox prelates and priests to disseminate spew like this, it has not been reported outside of social media. I did some digging and found the following:

                                        https://orthochristian.com/145269.html

                                        My personal anti-clerical bias aside, I too would regard it as Fake until such time it can be corroborated by a credible third party agency.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 13:52 last edited by
                                        #429

                                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
                                        . I did some digging and found the following:

                                        https://orthochristian.com/145269.html

                                        My personal anti-clerical bias aside, I too would regard it as Fake until such time it can be corroborated by a credible third party agency.

                                        Good find.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 14:21 last edited by
                                          #430

                                          Russian strike targets Kyiv shortly after UN chief meets with Zelenskyy:

                                          https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/9577647002

                                          Please love yourself.

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