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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #410

    Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

    Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

    United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

    U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #411

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

        Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

        United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

        U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

        MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #412

        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

        Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

        United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

        U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

        Doesn't this really smack of desperation on Russia's part?

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

          Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

          United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

          U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

          Doesn't this really smack of desperation on Russia's part?

          George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #413

          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
          Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

          Doesn't this really smack of desperation on Russia's part?

          I think they've been threatening this since day 1 of the invasion.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #414

            They have. I think it shows how few cards they have left to play. Which makes them more dangerous.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • George KG George K

              Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

              Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

              United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

              U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
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              #415

              @George-K

              Neither country appears to be at all concerned about this.

              Over the next few months a few of the bigger gas contracts with European states will come up for renewal. Should be entertaining to see what unfolds.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @George-K

                Neither country appears to be at all concerned about this.

                Over the next few months a few of the bigger gas contracts with European states will come up for renewal. Should be entertaining to see what unfolds.

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #416

                @Renauda I read that a pipeline to Poland will be completed by June from, I believe, Turkey.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Renauda I read that a pipeline to Poland will be completed by June from, I believe, Turkey.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #417

                  @George-K

                  Norway.

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe

                  Elbows up!

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by George K
                    #418

                    Later in the thread, it's mentioned that this is an "old" video - from mid-March, btw.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #419

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

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                        Renauda
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                        #420

                        @George-K

                        So she admits Mad Vlad is completely out of his tree.

                        We already knew that.

                        Elbows up!

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                          wrote on last edited by
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                          I wonder if the military would comply if he ordered a nuclear strike.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #422

                            Interesting thread on "tactical" nukes.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #423

                              What are everyone's odds that Vlad launches nukes?

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • MikM Mik

                                I wonder if the military would comply if he ordered a nuclear strike.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #424

                                @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                I wonder if the military would comply if he ordered a nuclear strike.

                                Yes. You can be certain that the scenario(s) involving nukes have already been gamed out.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  What are everyone's odds that Vlad launches nukes?

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #425

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  What are everyone's odds that Vlad launches nukes?

                                  One in let’s hope not.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #426

                                    The Church Speaks:

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #427

                                      That doesn't seem very Christian.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        The Church Speaks:

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #428

                                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        The Church Speaks:

                                        That has been circulating around here for the past week or so. Although I would not put it past the Moscow Patriarchate and some Orthodox prelates and priests to disseminate spew like this, it has not been reported outside of social media. I did some digging and found the following:

                                        https://orthochristian.com/145269.html

                                        My personal anti-clerical bias aside, I too would regard it as Fake until such time it can be corroborated by a credible third party agency.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          The Church Speaks:

                                          That has been circulating around here for the past week or so. Although I would not put it past the Moscow Patriarchate and some Orthodox prelates and priests to disseminate spew like this, it has not been reported outside of social media. I did some digging and found the following:

                                          https://orthochristian.com/145269.html

                                          My personal anti-clerical bias aside, I too would regard it as Fake until such time it can be corroborated by a credible third party agency.

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #429

                                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
                                          . I did some digging and found the following:

                                          https://orthochristian.com/145269.html

                                          My personal anti-clerical bias aside, I too would regard it as Fake until such time it can be corroborated by a credible third party agency.

                                          Good find.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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