The Ukraine war thread

[jon-nyc]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

In 2004 I was in Odessa for a few days with the intention of traveling by train to Chișinău in Moldova. The idea was to visit the little village outside the city where Rachel’s grandfather was born.

In the event the trains weren’t running because of violence by Russian backed separatists in the transdneister region. So we never got there. In hindsight I should have gone through Romania. But I don’t regret having visited Ukraine. It’s unlikely I would have gone otherwise.

[George K]

Read the thread...

[bachophile]

I’ve got some Crimean wine in my wine fridge. Gifted to me years ago.

I should open it one day to celebrate the fall of the red army.

[George K]

Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

[George K]

[Mik]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

Russia said it will stop natural gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday, making good on a threat to cut off buyers if they refuse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay in rubles. European gas prices surged.

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, seeking to revive diplomatic efforts to end the war more than two months after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin hosted talks with officials from more than 40 countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to discuss ways of boosting weapons supplies to Ukraine. Violence flared in the nearby breakaway Transnistria region of Moldova.

Doesn't this really smack of desperation on Russia's part?

[George K]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Russia turns off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria

Doesn't this really smack of desperation on Russia's part?

I think they've been threatening this since day 1 of the invasion.

[Mik]

They have. I think it shows how few cards they have left to play. Which makes them more dangerous.

[Renauda]

@George-K

Neither country appears to be at all concerned about this.

Over the next few months a few of the bigger gas contracts with European states will come up for renewal. Should be entertaining to see what unfolds.

[George K]

@Renauda I read that a pipeline to Poland will be completed by June from, I believe, Turkey.

[Renauda]

@George-K

Norway.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe

[George K]

Later in the thread, it's mentioned that this is an "old" video - from mid-March, btw.

[George K]

[Renauda]

@George-K

So she admits Mad Vlad is completely out of his tree.

We already knew that.

[Mik]

I wonder if the military would comply if he ordered a nuclear strike.

[George K]

Interesting thread on "tactical" nukes.

[Aqua Letifer]

What are everyone's odds that Vlad launches nukes?

[Renauda]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

I wonder if the military would comply if he ordered a nuclear strike.

Yes. You can be certain that the scenario(s) involving nukes have already been gamed out.

[Horace]

@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

What are everyone's odds that Vlad launches nukes?

One in let’s hope not.

[George K]

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