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  • M Mik
    14 Apr 2022, 18:13

    I don't see any way the Russian army could mount an effective conventional attack on Scandinavia. It's a bluff. Using nuclear weapons would make Russia a pariah for the foreseeable future and they cannot possibly win a nuclear exchange with NATO.

    Even if he eventually occupies Ukraine he won't be able to hold it at any acceptable cost in blood and treasure. Surely he must know this by now.

    I've read that Russian troops have been told that the war must be over, one way or another, for the May 9 WWII victory celebration. Perhaps Putin will claim Donetsk and Luhansk and declare victory.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 18:18 last edited by
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    @Mik

    I've read that Russian troops have been told that the war must be over, one way or another, for the May 9 WWII victory celebration. Perhaps Putin will claim Donetsk and Luhansk and declare victory..

    Hearing that as well. Quite plausible, although in the long run I still believe he wants total control over the whole of Ukraine.

    Elbows up!

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    • R Renauda
      14 Apr 2022, 18:15

      @Aqua-Letifer

      Sabre rattling. It means nothing and I call B. S. to the threat. Those are highly mobile systems that can be set in place at the drop of a hat and have a range that enables them to be deployed onto target from well within the borders of Russian Federation.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 19:30 last edited by Axtremus
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      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Sabre rattling.

      For domestic consumption, and/or to remind the world it still has a Sabre?

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      • A Axtremus
        14 Apr 2022, 19:30

        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Sabre rattling.

        For domestic consumption, and/or to remind the world it still has a Sabre?

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        Renauda
        wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 19:40 last edited by
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        @Axtremus

        Both.

        Elbows up!

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          bachophile
          wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 20:38 last edited by
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          Interesting thread on the sinking of the Moskva

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            bachophile
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              Mik
              wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 21:17 last edited by
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              And the Moskva has sunk. AMF.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-warship-moskva-has-sunk-state-media/ar-AAWeD1n?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=95be4503213640a5be7c563ae248b4b4

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Mik
                wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 21:25 last edited by
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                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 22:30 last edited by Mik
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                  H/t to Renauda

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                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    14 Apr 2022, 22:30

                    H/t to Renauda

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 22:36 last edited by
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                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

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                    lol

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 22:42 last edited by
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                      This is a BFD.

                      That ship was used to launch countless missile attacks from the Black Sea. There are two sister ships, but Turkey is denying entry to the Black Sea to all military vessels.

                      I would love to have been a fly on the wall when Putin heard this.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        14 Apr 2022, 22:42

                        This is a BFD.

                        That ship was used to launch countless missile attacks from the Black Sea. There are two sister ships, but Turkey is denying entry to the Black Sea to all military vessels.

                        I would love to have been a fly on the wall when Putin heard this.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 23:02 last edited by
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                        @George-K

                        Let’s hope it brings on a catastrophic cerebral haemorrhage .

                        Elbows up!

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                          George K
                          wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 23:03 last edited by
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                          "How do you lose naval superiority to a country that doesn’t have a navy?"

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            14 Apr 2022, 23:03

                            "How do you lose naval superiority to a country that doesn’t have a navy?"

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 23:10 last edited by
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                            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            "How do you lose naval superiority to a country that doesn’t have a navy?"

                            I lol'd hard.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              14 Apr 2022, 23:03

                              "How do you lose naval superiority to a country that doesn’t have a navy?"

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 23:16 last edited by
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                              @George-K

                              Don’t know but I think the Ukrainians just did it.

                              Elbows up!

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                                George K
                                wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 23:30 last edited by
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                                One story I read said that there are three two ships of the Kirov class.

                                Of the remaining two, one is undergoing a retrofit and, with all the sanctions, parts might be impossible to obtain. The other one, to replace "The Jewel of the Black Sea" will not be allowed passage, as I said.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 23:53 last edited by
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                                  It's hard to be an empire when the whole world hates you.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 00:55 last edited by
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                                    Russian propaganda?

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 01:08 last edited by
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                                      😆

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 09:37 last edited by
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                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 10:03 last edited by
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                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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