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The Ukraine war thread

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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    Nukes threatened if Sweden or Finland join NATO.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-warns-baltic-nuclear-deployment-if-nato-admits-sweden-finland-2022-04-14/

    My question is, what about the interim period between NATO application and membership? I know they're working on security guarantees but how is the rest of the world going to view an attack from Russia during this interim period?

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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #317

    @Aqua-Letifer

    Sabre rattling. It means nothing and I call B. S. to the threat. Those are highly mobile systems that can be set in place at the drop of a hat and have a range that enables them to be deployed onto target from well within the borders of Russian Federation.

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Mik

      I don't see any way the Russian army could mount an effective conventional attack on Scandinavia. It's a bluff. Using nuclear weapons would make Russia a pariah for the foreseeable future and they cannot possibly win a nuclear exchange with NATO.

      Even if he eventually occupies Ukraine he won't be able to hold it at any acceptable cost in blood and treasure. Surely he must know this by now.

      I've read that Russian troops have been told that the war must be over, one way or another, for the May 9 WWII victory celebration. Perhaps Putin will claim Donetsk and Luhansk and declare victory.

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      #318

      @Mik

      I've read that Russian troops have been told that the war must be over, one way or another, for the May 9 WWII victory celebration. Perhaps Putin will claim Donetsk and Luhansk and declare victory..

      Hearing that as well. Quite plausible, although in the long run I still believe he wants total control over the whole of Ukraine.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @Aqua-Letifer

        Sabre rattling. It means nothing and I call B. S. to the threat. Those are highly mobile systems that can be set in place at the drop of a hat and have a range that enables them to be deployed onto target from well within the borders of Russian Federation.

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        #319

        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Sabre rattling.

        For domestic consumption, and/or to remind the world it still has a Sabre?

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Sabre rattling.

          For domestic consumption, and/or to remind the world it still has a Sabre?

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          #320

          @Axtremus

          Both.

          Elbows up!

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            bachophile
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            #321

            Interesting thread on the sinking of the Moskva

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              • MikM Away
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                And the Moskva has sunk. AMF.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-warship-moskva-has-sunk-state-media/ar-AAWeD1n?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=95be4503213640a5be7c563ae248b4b4

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    #325

                    H/t to Renauda

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                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      H/t to Renauda

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                      Horace
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                      #326

                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

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                      lol

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        #327

                        This is a BFD.

                        That ship was used to launch countless missile attacks from the Black Sea. There are two sister ships, but Turkey is denying entry to the Black Sea to all military vessels.

                        I would love to have been a fly on the wall when Putin heard this.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          This is a BFD.

                          That ship was used to launch countless missile attacks from the Black Sea. There are two sister ships, but Turkey is denying entry to the Black Sea to all military vessels.

                          I would love to have been a fly on the wall when Putin heard this.

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                          Renauda
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                          @George-K

                          Let’s hope it brings on a catastrophic cerebral haemorrhage .

                          Elbows up!

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            "How do you lose naval superiority to a country that doesn’t have a navy?"

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              "How do you lose naval superiority to a country that doesn’t have a navy?"

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              #330

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              "How do you lose naval superiority to a country that doesn’t have a navy?"

                              I lol'd hard.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • George KG George K

                                "How do you lose naval superiority to a country that doesn’t have a navy?"

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                                #331

                                @George-K

                                Don’t know but I think the Ukrainians just did it.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  One story I read said that there are three two ships of the Kirov class.

                                  Of the remaining two, one is undergoing a retrofit and, with all the sanctions, parts might be impossible to obtain. The other one, to replace "The Jewel of the Black Sea" will not be allowed passage, as I said.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
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                                    #333

                                    It's hard to be an empire when the whole world hates you.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      George K
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                                      #334

                                      Russian propaganda?

                                      Screen Shot 2022-04-14 at 7.54.53 PM.png

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        😆

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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