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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #3090

    New to me as well but, all the same, not at all compelling for the simple reason it places too many people in the know.

    Elbows up!

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by
      #3091

      WTF, is he talking about?

      Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One, Trump on Tuesday said Ukraine had "better come to the table fast."

      Trump has previously signalled his impatience with the lack of swift progress in solving the four-year conflict.

      I wonder why, the lack of progress?

      Wait a minute…..

      Anne Applebaum gets it. Why can’t the WH narcissist demagogue?

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #3092

        Insanity.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #3093

          Cleese cuts out an important portion of the interview - an even better short of the interview with Applebaum:

          Elbows up!

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
            wrote on last edited by
            #3094

            Yeah ... quite likely the alternative will put in a better team to deal with this. (And yes, I also saw the AOC thread.)

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #3095

              Indeed, Nikki Haley would have had professional diplomats and security specialist take the lead. Nor would she have let Putin con or intimidate the US.

              Elbows up!

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              • AxtremusA Offline
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                Axtremus
                wrote on last edited by
                #3096

                NYT's news analysis starts leads with this headline:

                Trump Bets on Diplomacy Without Diplomats

                https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/17/us/politics/trump-witkoff-kushner-diplomacy.html

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #3097

                  Four years ago today. 😞

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    Four years ago today. 😞

                    RenaudaR Offline
                    RenaudaR Offline
                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #3098

                    @taiwan_girl

                    Arthur Dron is a 22-year-old graduate student of journalism at Ivan Franko National University of Lviv. In 2020, Dron published his first collection of poetry, Dormitory №6, which has been translated into Lithuanian, English, Polish, Italian, and Belarusian. However, now, instead of visiting lectures and receiving awards for his work, he is protecting Ukraine on the battlefield and writing poems about the experience of war. Despite the gentle quietness of his poems, Dron’s voice is loud in the sphere of modern Ukrainian poetry both in Ukraine and abroad.

                    First Letter to the Corinthians

                    Love is patient. Love is kind.
                    It is not jealous, is not pompous.
                    Love is terrified like a beast
                    but it perseveres.

                    Love could give up and abandon it all
                    but it perseveres
                    Sometimes, love has gunshot wounds to
                    its legs or bullet fragments lodged in
                    them.

                    Tourniquets squeeze love’s legs,
                    or it has no legs anymore.
                    Then love’s friends carry love.

                    Love digs trenches and lives in them.
                    It gnaws ice from the bottle cut in half
                    when it gets thirsty at negative four.
                    Love takes up combat duty,
                    gets into position
                    with hernias, fevers, prostatitis,
                    with blast injuries,
                    asthmas and allergies,
                    with a high probability
                    of not making it back,
                    with thoughts about
                    the most significant one.
                    It bears all things, believes all things,
                    hopes all things, endures all things!

                    Love can distinguish by ear
                    the shots of rocket launchers,
                    the strikes of mortar shells, and
                    the movement of tanks.
                    Love’s eyes hurt when it stares into the
                    thermal imager for too long.
                    Love wakes up at night
                    when the mice in the dugout crawl
                    under its field coat.
                    Sometimes, love vomits long in the
                    trees after heavy combat.
                    Every now and then, it closes the eyes of
                    its friends.
                    Love wraps them up in sleeping bags
                    and carries them away.

                    Love never fails!
                    But where there are prophecies, they
                    will cease;
                    where there are tongues, they will
                    be stilled;
                    where there is knowledge, it will pass
                    away.
                    For sometimes, the shelling is over,
                    and friends close Love’s eyes,
                    wrap it up in a sleeping bag,
                    and carry it away.

                    And then it passes to the living.

                    Background and analysis:

                    https://nanovic.nd.edu/features/the-first-letter-to-the-corinthians/

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #3099

                      An excellent interview with Fiona Hill from yesterdays Global Story on BBC World Service:

                      https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/w3ct71b2

                      Elbows up!

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                      • W Offline
                        W Offline
                        Wim
                        wrote last edited by
                        #3100

                        A dissenting voice on Russian television

                        https://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/72179

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
                          RenaudaR Offline
                          Renauda
                          wrote last edited by Renauda
                          #3101

                          He might want to stay away from windows above the ground floor. Likewise don’t drink tea offered from strangers.

                          In any event, he should pack underwear and a toothbrush. He may soon visit the village of Harp.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                            #3102

                            I find this hard to understand. The US is pressuring Ukraine to give up territory that Russia can’t seem to win militarily. Trump already stopped funding Ukraine, so what’s in it for them? Isn’t it just a straight-up win for Ukraine if the US walks away from ‘peace talks’ to focus on Iran, the (former) supplier of Russian drones?

                            Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              I find this hard to understand. The US is pressuring Ukraine to give up territory that Russia can’t seem to win militarily. Trump already stopped funding Ukraine, so what’s in it for them? Isn’t it just a straight-up win for Ukraine if the US walks away from ‘peace talks’ to focus on Iran, the (former) supplier of Russian drones?

                              RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
                              wrote last edited by
                              #3103

                              @jon-nyc said:

                              I find this hard to understand. The US is pressuring Ukraine to give up territory that Russia can’t seem to win militarily.

                              Because Putin demands it and has disingenuously convinced Washington that to achieve an armistice, at bare minimum the US to must force Ukraine to concede all claims to the territory. It is, of course, a total deception as he fully plans to eventually take all that has been been annexed but not held or occupied. This just offers a temporary respite in the war to make Trump feel good about himself and the 30 pieces of silver from Putin in his pocket.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote last edited by
                                #3104

                                I mean does anyone think we have any leverage over Ukraine to accept this? To coin a phrase, Trump doesn't have any cards.

                                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  I mean does anyone think we have any leverage over Ukraine to accept this? To coin a phrase, Trump doesn't have any cards.

                                  RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                                  #3105

                                  @jon-nyc

                                  Up until this latest chaos in Middle East started I would say no the US does not hold the leverage it did a a year ago. Between Trump’s bluster and Wikoff’s incompetence the US has lost a lot of its previous leverage.

                                  From here on though and owing to the global economic fallout from the current crisis occupying Washington, there is no telling whether the initiative will pass to the Kremlin.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • W Offline
                                    W Offline
                                    Wim
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #3106

                                    Petraeus on Ukraine and Russia:

                                    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5818227-david-petraeus-ukraine-russia-war/

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                                    • W Offline
                                      W Offline
                                      Wim
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #3107

                                      Online censorship in Russia

                                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/04/08/im-in-russia-by-blocking-telegram-the-kremlin-is-shooting-itself-in-the-foot-a92457

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                                      • W Offline
                                        W Offline
                                        Wim
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #3108

                                        American (?) pro-Kremlin commentator flees Russia

                                        https://uawire.org/pro-kremlin-commentator-flees-russia-after-fsb-threats-seeks-u-s-help

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