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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    Thomas Friedman says they deserve a Peace Prize, the "Neville Chamberlain Peace Prize":

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/22/opinion/ukraine-russia-negotiations-trump-deal.html

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    @Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Thomas Friedman says they deserve a Peace Prize, the "Neville Chamberlain Peace Prize":

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/22/opinion/ukraine-russia-negotiations-trump-deal.html

    I think we already moved past any parallels to Munich a few years ago. We are now on the eve of 1 September 1939 and its consequences.

    Elbows up!

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      Interesting if at all true

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-s-top-diplomat-says-putin-is-near-breaking-point-so-trump-must-change-ukraine-deal/ar-AA1R6m9f

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • MikM Mik

        Interesting if at all true

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-s-top-diplomat-says-putin-is-near-breaking-point-so-trump-must-change-ukraine-deal/ar-AA1R6m9f

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        @Mik

        Not stopping Trump from sending his Dim Philby dummkopf to meet and softball Putin in a couple of days

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Mik

          Interesting if at all true

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-s-top-diplomat-says-putin-is-near-breaking-point-so-trump-must-change-ukraine-deal/ar-AA1R6m9f

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          #3028

          @Mik I think Kallas is a little bit too optimistic. Russia isn't doing very well, but is not broke.
          Yet.

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            #3029

            They've shown remarkable resilience. That or the dreaded sanctions were toothless.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              #3030

              I would agree with Wim. Russia is definitely hurting but no where near falling apart. Never forget that it is a country whose economy in the past 35 years has twice collapsed yet continued to function without a revolt of the masses as a consequence.

              Elbows up!

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                Happenstance or intimidation?

                An Irish navy ship spotted five drones operating near the flight path of Ukranian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy aircraft as he arrived for a State visit to Ireland on Monday night.

                The sighting triggered a major security alert amid fears it was an attempt to interfere with the aircraft’s flight path.

                https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2025/12/04/drones-spotted-near-zelenskiys-flight-path-to-dublin-triggering-major-security-alert/

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Offline
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                  I'm not a huge believer in coincidence where Russia is concerned.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    #3033

                    I’m just channeling Steve Witkoff on incidents of this sort. 🙄

                    Elbows up!

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                      Some sarcasm is thinly veiled. Some not veiled at all. 😁

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        #3035

                        I don’t even try any more. In his current role, the man’s incompetence in the game of high stakes diplomacy is an existential threat to Western civilisation.

                        How’s that for an unabashed and deliberate dunk?

                        Elbows up!

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                          In India Putin just repeated his stance on 'Novorussiya'.
                          So far no reaction from the US...

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                            #3037

                            No surprise, but then it is not likely anyone is left in Washington other than possibly Marco Rubio who knows what Novorossiya means or even implies.

                            Elbows up!

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                              Just another bullshit but deeply felt justification. A riddle wrapped in an enigma...

                              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                All part of the twisted mythology making Russia up as the third Rome.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @Mik

                                  Not stopping Trump from sending his Dim Philby dummkopf to meet and softball Putin in a couple of days

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                                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Dim Philby

                                  😂

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    Dim Philby

                                    😂

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    Dim Philby

                                    Plausible autocorrect when you make a mistake trying to type Dr. Phibes.

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                                      Plausible maybe, but what I wrote was deliberate and not without malice.

                                      Elbows up!

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