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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #3023

    Thomas Friedman says they deserve a Peace Prize, the "Neville Chamberlain Peace Prize":

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/22/opinion/ukraine-russia-negotiations-trump-deal.html

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
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      #3024

      A succinct appraisal:

      https://www.facebook.com/reel/1337421634289373/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

      Elbows up!

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        Thomas Friedman says they deserve a Peace Prize, the "Neville Chamberlain Peace Prize":

        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/22/opinion/ukraine-russia-negotiations-trump-deal.html

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        Renauda
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        #3025

        @Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Thomas Friedman says they deserve a Peace Prize, the "Neville Chamberlain Peace Prize":

        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/22/opinion/ukraine-russia-negotiations-trump-deal.html

        I think we already moved past any parallels to Munich a few years ago. We are now on the eve of 1 September 1939 and its consequences.

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Offline
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          wrote last edited by
          #3026

          Interesting if at all true

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-s-top-diplomat-says-putin-is-near-breaking-point-so-trump-must-change-ukraine-deal/ar-AA1R6m9f

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • MikM Mik

            Interesting if at all true

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-s-top-diplomat-says-putin-is-near-breaking-point-so-trump-must-change-ukraine-deal/ar-AA1R6m9f

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            Renauda
            wrote last edited by
            #3027

            @Mik

            Not stopping Trump from sending his Dim Philby dummkopf to meet and softball Putin in a couple of days

            Elbows up!

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            • MikM Mik

              Interesting if at all true

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-s-top-diplomat-says-putin-is-near-breaking-point-so-trump-must-change-ukraine-deal/ar-AA1R6m9f

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              Wim
              wrote last edited by
              #3028

              @Mik I think Kallas is a little bit too optimistic. Russia isn't doing very well, but is not broke.
              Yet.

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              • MikM Offline
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                wrote last edited by Mik
                #3029

                They've shown remarkable resilience. That or the dreaded sanctions were toothless.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                  #3030

                  I would agree with Wim. Russia is definitely hurting but no where near falling apart. Never forget that it is a country whose economy in the past 35 years has twice collapsed yet continued to function without a revolt of the masses as a consequence.

                  Elbows up!

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                    #3031

                    Happenstance or intimidation?

                    An Irish navy ship spotted five drones operating near the flight path of Ukranian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy aircraft as he arrived for a State visit to Ireland on Monday night.

                    The sighting triggered a major security alert amid fears it was an attempt to interfere with the aircraft’s flight path.

                    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2025/12/04/drones-spotted-near-zelenskiys-flight-path-to-dublin-triggering-major-security-alert/

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #3032

                      I'm not a huge believer in coincidence where Russia is concerned.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #3033

                        I’m just channeling Steve Witkoff on incidents of this sort. 🙄

                        Elbows up!

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #3034

                          Some sarcasm is thinly veiled. Some not veiled at all. 😁

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            wrote last edited by Renauda
                            #3035

                            I don’t even try any more. In his current role, the man’s incompetence in the game of high stakes diplomacy is an existential threat to Western civilisation.

                            How’s that for an unabashed and deliberate dunk?

                            Elbows up!

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                            • W Offline
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                              Wim
                              wrote last edited by
                              #3036

                              In India Putin just repeated his stance on 'Novorussiya'.
                              So far no reaction from the US...

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                                Renauda
                                wrote last edited by Renauda
                                #3037

                                No surprise, but then it is not likely anyone is left in Washington other than possibly Marco Rubio who knows what Novorossiya means or even implies.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  wrote last edited by
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                                  Just another bullshit but deeply felt justification. A riddle wrapped in an enigma...

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    wrote last edited by
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                                    All part of the twisted mythology making Russia up as the third Rome.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      @Mik

                                      Not stopping Trump from sending his Dim Philby dummkopf to meet and softball Putin in a couple of days

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Dim Philby

                                      😂

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Dim Philby

                                        😂

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #3041

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Dim Philby

                                        Plausible autocorrect when you make a mistake trying to type Dr. Phibes.

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #3042

                                          Plausible maybe, but what I wrote was deliberate and not without malice.

                                          Elbows up!

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