The Ukraine war thread

[Renauda]

Former US Ambassador to Ukraine, John Herbst weighs in on the proposal:

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-expert-conversation-separating-signal-from-noise-in-trumps-ukraine-peace-plan/

[Mik]

I think he is spot on. Seize the assets and arm Ukraine to the teeth.

[Renauda]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

I think he is spot on. Seize the assets and arm Ukraine to the teeth.

And fire that moron Witkoff.

[Axtremus]

Thomas Friedman says they deserve a Peace Prize, the "Neville Chamberlain Peace Prize":

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/22/opinion/ukraine-russia-negotiations-trump-deal.html

[Renauda]

A succinct appraisal:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1337421634289373/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

[Renauda]

@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

Thomas Friedman says they deserve a Peace Prize, the "Neville Chamberlain Peace Prize":

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/22/opinion/ukraine-russia-negotiations-trump-deal.html

I think we already moved past any parallels to Munich a few years ago. We are now on the eve of 1 September 1939 and its consequences.

[Mik]

Interesting if at all true

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-s-top-diplomat-says-putin-is-near-breaking-point-so-trump-must-change-ukraine-deal/ar-AA1R6m9f

[Renauda]

@Mik

Not stopping Trump from sending his Dim Philby dummkopf to meet and softball Putin in a couple of days

[Wim]

@Mik I think Kallas is a little bit too optimistic. Russia isn't doing very well, but is not broke.
Yet.

[Mik]

They've shown remarkable resilience. That or the dreaded sanctions were toothless.

[Renauda]

I would agree with Wim. Russia is definitely hurting but no where near falling apart. Never forget that it is a country whose economy in the past 35 years has twice collapsed yet continued to function without a revolt of the masses as a consequence.