The Ukraine war thread
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I would like more details about that. The abuses of the asylum system are well known, and that needed to be cracked down on. I wonder if this is a first step to looking more critically at each of the asylees. This order is not targeted at Ukrainians. It applies much more broadly.
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The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.
Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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Shameful
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
Shameful
Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.
Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.
@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.
Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.
Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.
Education is extremely important.
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Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now..
I am confident Canada will welcome all Ukrainians who arrive at our border seeking refuge from not only Putin’s jackboot but now, the perfidy of the Trump regime as well.
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The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.
Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.
@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.
Same with a lot from Asia (China, India, even some from Taiwan, etc.)
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
Shameful
Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now.
@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
Shameful
Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now.
Plus, Ukrainian chicks are pretty
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@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.
Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.
Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.
@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.
Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.
Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.
It's hardball negotiating.
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@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.
Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.
Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.
It's hardball negotiating.
@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.
Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.
Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.
It's hardball negotiating.
If it true, I hope you and the rest of the bullying MAGAt filth with whom you march in lock step are proud of the lies and deceit you so blindly support and propagate.
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Off the top of my head I’m thinking of 8 Ukrainians who came to YYC during this war. All but 2 speak, read, write fluent English. Very well educated, they take on minimum wage jobs .. they are diligent, quick, efficient. I remember the 2 brand new refugees who helped my son move. They were hired by a Ukrainian Canadian who owns a moving company. Complete with their cell phones, google maps and a translation app they figured out my kid’s IKEA and wifi situation, sourced out the location for the needed IKEA part, went above and beyond setting up his furniture and equipment. They didn’t have to do that. Those 2 boys were really strong, and had a treadmill unloaded and down a narrow L-shaped stairwell in minutes. The girls & mothers I know (1 whom I’ve friended) all have good educations. I’ve volunteered anything I can do to help them with their permanent residency applications. Ukrainians are darn good people, smart, industrious and make for the best citizens. Canada (prairie people especially) knew this long before this recent war. I grew up alongside many Ukrainians. We’d love to have more of them as teachers, doctors, nurses, tech people.
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Off the top of my head I’m thinking of 8 Ukrainians who came to YYC during this war. All but 2 speak, read, write fluent English. Very well educated, they take on minimum wage jobs .. they are diligent, quick, efficient. I remember the 2 brand new refugees who helped my son move. They were hired by a Ukrainian Canadian who owns a moving company. Complete with their cell phones, google maps and a translation app they figured out my kid’s IKEA and wifi situation, sourced out the location for the needed IKEA part, went above and beyond setting up his furniture and equipment. They didn’t have to do that. Those 2 boys were really strong, and had a treadmill unloaded and down a narrow L-shaped stairwell in minutes. The girls & mothers I know (1 whom I’ve friended) all have good educations. I’ve volunteered anything I can do to help them with their permanent residency applications. Ukrainians are darn good people, smart, industrious and make for the best citizens. Canada (prairie people especially) knew this long before this recent war. I grew up alongside many Ukrainians. We’d love to have more of them as teachers, doctors, nurses, tech people.
Our son works part time in a local grocery store. At least a half dozen of his coworkers are young Ukrainian women who are here under temporary work visas for Ukrainian war refugees. They are all intelligent, polite, hard working and above all appreciative of the unwavering support Canada gives their nation its just struggle against tyranny.
Elbows up!
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Our son works part time in a local grocery store. At least a half dozen of his coworkers are young Ukrainian women who are here under temporary work visas for Ukrainian war refugees. They are all intelligent, polite, hard working and above all appreciative of the unwavering support Canada gives their nation its just struggle against tyranny.
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
the unwavering support Canada gives their nation its just struggle against tyranny.Show off.
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Guys, this is old news. January 28th or so, there was an EO basically halting all of the renewals and extensions for the TPS and Refugee programs. This was primarily aimed at those feline feasting Haitians in Springfield and Charleroi, along with the Venezuelan gang members hiding among the legitimate refugees. There are alternative methods to deal with the individual requests for asylum, they just aren’t doing blanket renewals like the prior administration.
This is a journalism instance of malicious implementation.
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The EO directed DHS to end all the specialized parole programs. This is the implementation. Had they wished to limit it to Haiti and Venezuela they could have chosen that route instead.
In fairness, the administration has recently said no decision has been made, so maybe they’ll still back off this one.
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Appears that Trump may have sent his headhunters to Ukraine in search of potential Quislings for president but found none:
Ex-President Petro Poroshenko's team works "publicly and transparently" with U.S. partners to ensure bipartisan support for Ukraine, Poroshenko said on March 6, reiterating his opposition to elections during the war.
His comments came in reaction to Politico's article, which claimed that U.S. President Donald Trump's team has been leading secret talks with Poroshenko and another opposition leader, Yuliia Tymoshenko, as Washington ramps up pressure against President Volodymyr Zelensky.
They may now have to go to Moscow for recommendations on the Kremlin’s preferred candidates for the job.
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About Ukrainian immigrants going to Canada, it may be a win-win.
Just seems to me with Canada's large habitable landmass and its very low fertility rate of only 1.33, Canada really can use more people.
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About Ukrainian immigrants going to Canada, it may be a win-win.
Just seems to me with Canada's large habitable landmass and its very low fertility rate of only 1.33, Canada really can use more people.
@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:
About Ukrainian immigrants going to Canada, it may be a win-win.
Just seems to me with Canada's large habitable landmass and its very low fertility rate of only 1.33, Canada really can use more people.
Alaska also has a lot of landmass. Living in the North is usually not something everyone can do.
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About Ukrainian immigrants going to Canada, it may be a win-win.
Just seems to me with Canada's large habitable landmass and its very low fertility rate of only 1.33, Canada really can use more people.
@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:
About Ukrainian immigrants going to Canada, it may be a win-win.
Just seems to me with Canada's large habitable landmass and its very low fertility rate of only 1.33, Canada really can use more people.
Ukrainian culture is deeply interwoven into
many parts of urban and rural Western Canada. It is in fact, become part the Canadian identity. Ukrainian immigration is always welcomed here and as you point out, we have plenty of hospitable empty space - space that resembles their Ukrainian homeland. Much greater than even Alaska! Imagine that,eh ?
