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    Wim
    wrote on 5 Mar 2025, 22:02 last edited by
    #2706

    Anonymous sources of course, but yet...

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/03/04/kremlin-fears-trump-zelensky-clash-could-harm-its-shot-at-a-grand-bargain-a88247

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      Tom-K
      wrote on 5 Mar 2025, 22:36 last edited by Tom-K 3 May 2025, 22:39
      #2707

      Here's a video by a Russian woman explaining why Russian men volunteer to die in Ukraine.

      Link to video

      If I was a Russian I'd probably be fighting in Ukraine too.

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      • T Tom-K
        5 Mar 2025, 22:36

        Here's a video by a Russian woman explaining why Russian men volunteer to die in Ukraine.

        Link to video

        If I was a Russian I'd probably be fighting in Ukraine too.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 5 Mar 2025, 23:12 last edited by Renauda 12 days ago
        #2708

        @Tom-K

        Nothing to dispute, she presents the reality and facts very well.

        Elbows up!

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 01:37 last edited by
          #2709

          Not surprised at what she presented.
          I have no illusion regarding Russia's prosperity or the lack thereof.

          I like the painting or wallpaper on her wall and/or closet door in her background.

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          • J Jolly
            5 Mar 2025, 19:05

            Listen, Obama did not do a thing when Putin took the Crimea. Biden had three years to push Putin out of Ukraine or cut a deal and he didn't.

            What wasn't of paramount importance, suddenly is. Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

            Again, who gives a shit about the lace around the doily? Does Zelensky cut a deal or watch his country be absorbed by Russia?

            We're way past the kindergarten stage.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 02:36 last edited by
            #2710

            @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

            We're way past the kindergarten stage.

            Agree. Somebody needs to tell President Trump that. 😛

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            • T taiwan_girl
              6 Mar 2025, 02:36

              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

              We're way past the kindergarten stage.

              Agree. Somebody needs to tell President Trump that. 😛

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              89th
              wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 02:59 last edited by
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              @taiwan_girl said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

              We're way past the kindergarten stage.

              Agree. Somebody needs to tell President Trump that. 😛

              POTD! But no need, he's clearly in 3rd grade.

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              • J Jolly
                5 Mar 2025, 19:05

                Listen, Obama did not do a thing when Putin took the Crimea. Biden had three years to push Putin out of Ukraine or cut a deal and he didn't.

                What wasn't of paramount importance, suddenly is. Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                Again, who gives a shit about the lace around the doily? Does Zelensky cut a deal or watch his country be absorbed by Russia?

                We're way past the kindergarten stage.

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                89th
                wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 03:02 last edited by
                #2712

                @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Listen, Obama did not do a thing when Putin took the Crimea. Biden had three years to push Putin out of Ukraine or cut a deal and he didn't.

                What wasn't of paramount importance, suddenly is. Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                Again, who gives a shit about the lace around the doily? Does Zelensky cut a deal or watch his country be absorbed by Russia?

                We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                I half agree with you, but a few points:

                • Obama led the effort to put sanctions on Russia (he convinced Merkel, who helped convince the rest of Europe), which essentially stopped Russia from going beyond Crimea into Donbas. Nonetheless, I agree the response was relatively weak.
                • As @Renauda points out, we are looking like we just want profit for our investment, it's scummy. And the rare earth metals there are not rare at all, btw. Nonetheless, either we need to man up and force Russia out or we need to just cut and run and let Russia take Ukraine, then Moldova and Belarus. This wishy-washy appeasement crap would make Reagan roll in his grave.
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                • 8 89th
                  6 Mar 2025, 03:02

                  @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Listen, Obama did not do a thing when Putin took the Crimea. Biden had three years to push Putin out of Ukraine or cut a deal and he didn't.

                  What wasn't of paramount importance, suddenly is. Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                  Again, who gives a shit about the lace around the doily? Does Zelensky cut a deal or watch his country be absorbed by Russia?

                  We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                  I half agree with you, but a few points:

                  • Obama led the effort to put sanctions on Russia (he convinced Merkel, who helped convince the rest of Europe), which essentially stopped Russia from going beyond Crimea into Donbas. Nonetheless, I agree the response was relatively weak.
                  • As @Renauda points out, we are looking like we just want profit for our investment, it's scummy. And the rare earth metals there are not rare at all, btw. Nonetheless, either we need to man up and force Russia out or we need to just cut and run and let Russia take Ukraine, then Moldova and Belarus. This wishy-washy appeasement crap would make Reagan roll in his grave.
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 03:08 last edited by Renauda 12 days ago
                  #2713

                  @89th

                  Russia actually took Belarus long ago. At least twenty years ago, probably even longer. It’s just that no one noticed. It is a sovereign country in name only, just how Putin likes it.

                  Elbows up!

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 12:36 last edited by jon-nyc 12 days ago
                    #2714

                    Trump to revoke refugee status for Ukrainian war refugees.

                    We have a number in my town. A lot of women and kids.

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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 13:36 last edited by
                      #2715

                      Shameful

                      I was only joking

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 14:53 last edited by
                        #2716

                        I would like more details about that. The abuses of the asylum system are well known, and that needed to be cracked down on. I wonder if this is a first step to looking more critically at each of the asylees. This order is not targeted at Ukrainians. It applies much more broadly.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:06 last edited by jon-nyc 11 days ago
                          #2717

                          The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                          Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            6 Mar 2025, 13:36

                            Shameful

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:07 last edited by jon-nyc 11 days ago
                            #2718

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Shameful

                            Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              6 Mar 2025, 15:06

                              The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                              Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:13 last edited by
                              #2719

                              @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                              Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                              Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:14 last edited by Renauda 11 days ago
                                #2720

                                @jon-nyc

                                Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now..

                                I am confident Canada will welcome all Ukrainians who arrive at our border seeking refuge from not only Putin’s jackboot but now, the perfidy of the Trump regime as well.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  6 Mar 2025, 15:06

                                  The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                  Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:44 last edited by
                                  #2721

                                  @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                  Same with a lot from Asia (China, India, even some from Taiwan, etc.)

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    6 Mar 2025, 15:07

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    Shameful

                                    Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now.

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 16:19 last edited by
                                    #2722

                                    @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    Shameful

                                    Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now.

                                    Plus, Ukrainian chicks are pretty

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                                    • H Horace
                                      6 Mar 2025, 15:13

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                      Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                                      Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 17:10 last edited by
                                      #2723

                                      @Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                      Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                                      Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.

                                      It's hardball negotiating.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        6 Mar 2025, 17:10

                                        @Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                        Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                                        Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.

                                        It's hardball negotiating.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 17:14 last edited by Renauda 11 days ago
                                        #2724

                                        @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        @Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                        Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                                        Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.

                                        It's hardball negotiating.

                                        If it true, I hope you and the rest of the bullying MAGAt filth with whom you march in lock step are proud of the lies and deceit you so blindly support and propagate.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          blondie
                                          wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 17:49 last edited by
                                          #2725

                                          Off the top of my head I’m thinking of 8 Ukrainians who came to YYC during this war. All but 2 speak, read, write fluent English. Very well educated, they take on minimum wage jobs .. they are diligent, quick, efficient. I remember the 2 brand new refugees who helped my son move. They were hired by a Ukrainian Canadian who owns a moving company. Complete with their cell phones, google maps and a translation app they figured out my kid’s IKEA and wifi situation, sourced out the location for the needed IKEA part, went above and beyond setting up his furniture and equipment. They didn’t have to do that. Those 2 boys were really strong, and had a treadmill unloaded and down a narrow L-shaped stairwell in minutes. The girls & mothers I know (1 whom I’ve friended) all have good educations. I’ve volunteered anything I can do to help them with their permanent residency applications. Ukrainians are darn good people, smart, industrious and make for the best citizens. Canada (prairie people especially) knew this long before this recent war. I grew up alongside many Ukrainians. We’d love to have more of them as teachers, doctors, nurses, tech people.

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