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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #2704

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    You were warned.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #2705

      You wear your cap often?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Wim
        wrote on last edited by
        #2706

        Anonymous sources of course, but yet...

        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/03/04/kremlin-fears-trump-zelensky-clash-could-harm-its-shot-at-a-grand-bargain-a88247

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        • Tom-KT Offline
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          Tom-K
          wrote on last edited by Tom-K
          #2707

          Here's a video by a Russian woman explaining why Russian men volunteer to die in Ukraine.

          Link to video

          If I was a Russian I'd probably be fighting in Ukraine too.

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          • Tom-KT Tom-K

            Here's a video by a Russian woman explaining why Russian men volunteer to die in Ukraine.

            Link to video

            If I was a Russian I'd probably be fighting in Ukraine too.

            RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #2708

            @Tom-K

            Nothing to dispute, she presents the reality and facts very well.

            Elbows up!

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by
              #2709

              Not surprised at what she presented.
              I have no illusion regarding Russia's prosperity or the lack thereof.

              I like the painting or wallpaper on her wall and/or closet door in her background.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Listen, Obama did not do a thing when Putin took the Crimea. Biden had three years to push Putin out of Ukraine or cut a deal and he didn't.

                What wasn't of paramount importance, suddenly is. Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                Again, who gives a shit about the lace around the doily? Does Zelensky cut a deal or watch his country be absorbed by Russia?

                We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on last edited by
                #2710

                @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                Agree. Somebody needs to tell President Trump that. 😛

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                  Agree. Somebody needs to tell President Trump that. 😛

                  89th8 Offline
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                  89th
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2711

                  @taiwan_girl said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                  Agree. Somebody needs to tell President Trump that. 😛

                  POTD! But no need, he's clearly in 3rd grade.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Listen, Obama did not do a thing when Putin took the Crimea. Biden had three years to push Putin out of Ukraine or cut a deal and he didn't.

                    What wasn't of paramount importance, suddenly is. Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                    Again, who gives a shit about the lace around the doily? Does Zelensky cut a deal or watch his country be absorbed by Russia?

                    We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                    89th8 Offline
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                    89th
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2712

                    @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Listen, Obama did not do a thing when Putin took the Crimea. Biden had three years to push Putin out of Ukraine or cut a deal and he didn't.

                    What wasn't of paramount importance, suddenly is. Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                    Again, who gives a shit about the lace around the doily? Does Zelensky cut a deal or watch his country be absorbed by Russia?

                    We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                    I half agree with you, but a few points:

                    • Obama led the effort to put sanctions on Russia (he convinced Merkel, who helped convince the rest of Europe), which essentially stopped Russia from going beyond Crimea into Donbas. Nonetheless, I agree the response was relatively weak.
                    • As @Renauda points out, we are looking like we just want profit for our investment, it's scummy. And the rare earth metals there are not rare at all, btw. Nonetheless, either we need to man up and force Russia out or we need to just cut and run and let Russia take Ukraine, then Moldova and Belarus. This wishy-washy appeasement crap would make Reagan roll in his grave.
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                    • 89th8 89th

                      @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Listen, Obama did not do a thing when Putin took the Crimea. Biden had three years to push Putin out of Ukraine or cut a deal and he didn't.

                      What wasn't of paramount importance, suddenly is. Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                      Again, who gives a shit about the lace around the doily? Does Zelensky cut a deal or watch his country be absorbed by Russia?

                      We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                      I half agree with you, but a few points:

                      • Obama led the effort to put sanctions on Russia (he convinced Merkel, who helped convince the rest of Europe), which essentially stopped Russia from going beyond Crimea into Donbas. Nonetheless, I agree the response was relatively weak.
                      • As @Renauda points out, we are looking like we just want profit for our investment, it's scummy. And the rare earth metals there are not rare at all, btw. Nonetheless, either we need to man up and force Russia out or we need to just cut and run and let Russia take Ukraine, then Moldova and Belarus. This wishy-washy appeasement crap would make Reagan roll in his grave.
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                      #2713

                      @89th

                      Russia actually took Belarus long ago. At least twenty years ago, probably even longer. It’s just that no one noticed. It is a sovereign country in name only, just how Putin likes it.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                        #2714

                        Trump to revoke refugee status for Ukrainian war refugees.

                        We have a number in my town. A lot of women and kids.

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                        You were warned.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2715

                          Shameful

                          I was only joking

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2716

                            I would like more details about that. The abuses of the asylum system are well known, and that needed to be cracked down on. I wonder if this is a first step to looking more critically at each of the asylees. This order is not targeted at Ukrainians. It applies much more broadly.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                              #2717

                              The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                              Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                              You were warned.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                Shameful

                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                #2718

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Shameful

                                Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now.

                                You were warned.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                  Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2719

                                  @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                  Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                                  Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #2720

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now..

                                    I am confident Canada will welcome all Ukrainians who arrive at our border seeking refuge from not only Putin’s jackboot but now, the perfidy of the Trump regime as well.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                      Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #2721

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                      Same with a lot from Asia (China, India, even some from Taiwan, etc.)

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Shameful

                                        Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now.

                                        89th8 Offline
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                                        89th
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2722

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Shameful

                                        Wouldn’t shock me if Canada or Europe took them in. They’ve even learned English by now.

                                        Plus, Ukrainian chicks are pretty

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                          Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                                          Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2723

                                          @Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          The obvious abuses are economic refugees, mostly from Latin America, claiming political asylum.

                                          Seems like the refugees from the war in Ukraine is the type of situation that asylum laws were created for.

                                          Which is why I don't expect these people to actually be deported. I suspect this reporting is motivated rhetoric, about a broad ruling that happens to include Ukrainian refugees in a set of people who will be looked at to determine their legitimacy as asylees.

                                          It's hardball negotiating.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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