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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #2690

    And I was pleasantly to hear Mark Levin ripping into all of the isolationist “Republicans” tonight.

    The Brad

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      89th
      wrote on last edited by
      #2691

      Still weird to see Levin speak (he's on Fox now I think, or a taped podcast), anyway... listened to him on radio for years and all I can hear is his voice even when he's on video.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #2692

        Aren’t there two Mark Levines in the conservative punditsphere?

        One is a Canadian that worked for NR that was involved in the Michael Mann lawsuits. Him I used to read. I think the TV guy is a different person, no?

        You were warned.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #2693

          I’m thinking of Mark Steyn

          You were warned.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
            #2694

            Mark Levin was an attorney working for the Reagan administration. He had some role in the Contragate hearings and became Ed Meese’s chief of staff.

            The Brad

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #2695

              Noah Rothman.

              https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/republicans-are-fooling-themselves-on-the-ukraine-war/

              You were warned.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Noah Rothman.

                https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/republicans-are-fooling-themselves-on-the-ukraine-war/

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                #2696

                @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Noah Rothman.

                https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/republicans-are-fooling-themselves-on-the-ukraine-war/

                Rothman’s original never-trump attitude is coloring his read of the issue. The security guarantees are Trump’s bargaining chip. Not for Putin, but for Zelenskyy. He can’t give that without Zelenskyy getting past his “no concessions” stance. I don’t get the impression that Zelenskyy wants to accept anything less than the 2013 borders. That’s not happening without a major escalation that Zelenskyy’s allies have no stomach for. Trump needs those security agreements to bring Ukraine to the table.

                The Brad

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #2697

                  @LuFins-Dad

                  I don’t agree. Zelenskyi is enough of a realist to know he cannot expect Putin return so much as a metre of occupied territory. Likewise, he will agree to the concessions agreement - he will designate one of his cabinet ministers to sign on Ukraine’s behalf. He said so yesterday at presser in the UK.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #2699

                      @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

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                      You had one job and you fucked it up.

                      Lick your calf over again.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #2700

                        You had one job and you fucked it up.

                        Lick your calf over again.

                        Better than constantly licking Trump’s ass like at least two people do in here. Right, Beauregard?

                        Elbows up!

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                        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2701

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwygxvvrd8do

                          The US has paused intelligence sharing with Ukraine, the White House National Security Adviser said on Wednesday, adding that the administration was reviewing all aspects of its intelligence relationship with the country.

                          When asked whether intelligence sharing had been put on hold along with military aid, Mike Waltz told reporters: "We have, we have taken a step back."

                          The US has shared intelligence with Ukraine since the early stages of the war in 2022.

                          At some point (probably long past), this just looks like pettiness by President Trump. "Ooooh, President Zelensky did kiss my shoes in the Oval Office. I am going to show him!!!!"

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2702

                            Listen, Obama did not do a thing when Putin took the Crimea. Biden had three years to push Putin out of Ukraine or cut a deal and he didn't.

                            What wasn't of paramount importance, suddenly is. Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                            Again, who gives a shit about the lace around the doily? Does Zelensky cut a deal or watch his country be absorbed by Russia?

                            We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #2703

                              Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                              If that is the case, and suspect it is for a host of defensible reasons, then it is incumbent that the US actually begin acting like the honest broker and adult in the room it says it is.

                              At the moment the US appears anything but an adult or honest broker. Indeed it appears to be acting as a vindictive and venal third party looking to profit from the conflict.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                You were warned.

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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2705

                                  You wear your cap often?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Wim
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                                    #2706

                                    Anonymous sources of course, but yet...

                                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/03/04/kremlin-fears-trump-zelensky-clash-could-harm-its-shot-at-a-grand-bargain-a88247

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                                    • Tom-KT Offline
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                                      Tom-K
                                      wrote on last edited by Tom-K
                                      #2707

                                      Here's a video by a Russian woman explaining why Russian men volunteer to die in Ukraine.

                                      Link to video

                                      If I was a Russian I'd probably be fighting in Ukraine too.

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                                      • Tom-KT Tom-K

                                        Here's a video by a Russian woman explaining why Russian men volunteer to die in Ukraine.

                                        Link to video

                                        If I was a Russian I'd probably be fighting in Ukraine too.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #2708

                                        @Tom-K

                                        Nothing to dispute, she presents the reality and facts very well.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • AxtremusA Offline
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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2709

                                          Not surprised at what she presented.
                                          I have no illusion regarding Russia's prosperity or the lack thereof.

                                          I like the painting or wallpaper on her wall and/or closet door in her background.

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