The Ukraine war thread
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@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.
FFS.
@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.FFSСука блять (suka blyat’)FIFY
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@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
If anything, Vance's stock went up with the base.
Wrong base. And Trump knows that.
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Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.
@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.
I think Vance is a little worse than that. Vance doesn’t just represent America First, he represents America First and Only. He’s a little more in the fringe my side that Trump’s been walking the tightrope with. Trump’s not an isolationist. Vance? I think he’s is.
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And I was pleasantly to hear Mark Levin ripping into all of the isolationist “Republicans” tonight.
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Mark Levin was an attorney working for the Reagan administration. He had some role in the Contragate hearings and became Ed Meese’s chief of staff.
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@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
Noah Rothman.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/republicans-are-fooling-themselves-on-the-ukraine-war/
Rothman’s original never-trump attitude is coloring his read of the issue. The security guarantees are Trump’s bargaining chip. Not for Putin, but for Zelenskyy. He can’t give that without Zelenskyy getting past his “no concessions” stance. I don’t get the impression that Zelenskyy wants to accept anything less than the 2013 borders. That’s not happening without a major escalation that Zelenskyy’s allies have no stomach for. Trump needs those security agreements to bring Ukraine to the table.
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I don’t agree. Zelenskyi is enough of a realist to know he cannot expect Putin return so much as a metre of occupied territory. Likewise, he will agree to the concessions agreement - he will designate one of his cabinet ministers to sign on Ukraine’s behalf. He said so yesterday at presser in the UK.
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@89th said in The Ukraine war thread:
You had one job and you fucked it up.
Lick your calf over again.
