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  • X xenon

    @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

    U.S. aid to Ukraine put on indefinite pause.

    Is congress supposed to have any role here? Genuine question.

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    @xenon said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

    U.S. aid to Ukraine put on indefinite pause.

    Is congress supposed to have any role here? Genuine question.

    DOGE might recommend its elimination. It appears to waste money, is morally corrupt and currently, seems to be unnecessary.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      The swear expression сука блять (syka blyat’) is Russian not Ukrainian, and is commonly used in the contemporary lexicon of both languages. Ukrainians whose families originated in Western Ukraine (under Austria and Poland) then immigrated to North America before WWII, would not use it, as their swearing would be closer to the Polish kurwa mać example in the tweet.

      In any case, the term syka blyat’ is a vulgar expression of frustration or exasperation at something or at what someone either did or said. Although it cannot be translated directly into English, it is the Russian equivalent of saying Aw, for fuck sakes! or,as noted in the Tweet, fucking hell!. In any case, it is not a vulgar epithet directed at an individual person like calling them a “bitter asshole* or a “goddamned prick”.

      When I was in Serbia, they liked teaching me swear words. I still remember (I think) that "son of a b*tch" is "kurvin sin" (dont think that is spelled right - pronounced like "coor veen seen". Somewhat close to the Polish word. I am sure they all relate on the Slavic language family tree (though I dont think Polish is Slavic. 🤷 ).

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      Renauda
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      #2685

      @taiwan_girl said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      The swear expression сука блять (syka blyat’) is Russian not Ukrainian, and is commonly used in the contemporary lexicon of both languages. Ukrainians whose families originated in Western Ukraine (under Austria and Poland) then immigrated to North America before WWII, would not use it, as their swearing would be closer to the Polish kurwa mać example in the tweet.

      In any case, the term syka blyat’ is a vulgar expression of frustration or exasperation at something or at what someone either did or said. Although it cannot be translated directly into English, it is the Russian equivalent of saying Aw, for fuck sakes! or,as noted in the Tweet, fucking hell!. In any case, it is not a vulgar epithet directed at an individual person like calling them a “bitter asshole* or a “goddamned prick”.

      When I was in Serbia, they liked teaching me swear words. I still remember (I think) that "son of a b*tch" is "kurvin sin" (dont think that is spelled right - pronounced like "coor veen seen". Somewhat close to the Polish word. I am sure they all relate on the Slavic language family tree (though I dont think Polish is Slavic. 🤷 ).

      The word you’re looking for is сукин сынь (sukin syn’) Pronounced sue’keen sin

      Edit

      still remember (I think) that "son of a b*tch" is "kurvin sin" (dont think that is spelled right - pronounced like "coor veen seen".

      My bad, sorry gave it to you in Russian. They would have been teaching you in Serbo-Croatian. So yes that would be kurvin sin closer to the Polish form.

      Elbows up!

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

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        @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

        FFS.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

          FFS.

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          @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
          Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

          FFS Сука блять (suka blyat’)

          FIFY

          Elbows up!

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            If anything, Vance's stock went up with the base.

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            @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

            If anything, Vance's stock went up with the base.

            Wrong base. And Trump knows that.

            The Brad

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

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              @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

              I think Vance is a little worse than that. Vance doesn’t just represent America First, he represents America First and Only. He’s a little more in the fringe my side that Trump’s been walking the tightrope with. Trump’s not an isolationist. Vance? I think he’s is.

              The Brad

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                And I was pleasantly to hear Mark Levin ripping into all of the isolationist “Republicans” tonight.

                The Brad

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                  Still weird to see Levin speak (he's on Fox now I think, or a taped podcast), anyway... listened to him on radio for years and all I can hear is his voice even when he's on video.

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                    Aren’t there two Mark Levines in the conservative punditsphere?

                    One is a Canadian that worked for NR that was involved in the Michael Mann lawsuits. Him I used to read. I think the TV guy is a different person, no?

                    You were warned.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      I’m thinking of Mark Steyn

                      You were warned.

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                        #2694

                        Mark Levin was an attorney working for the Reagan administration. He had some role in the Contragate hearings and became Ed Meese’s chief of staff.

                        The Brad

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          Noah Rothman.

                          https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/republicans-are-fooling-themselves-on-the-ukraine-war/

                          You were warned.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Noah Rothman.

                            https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/republicans-are-fooling-themselves-on-the-ukraine-war/

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                            @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Noah Rothman.

                            https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/republicans-are-fooling-themselves-on-the-ukraine-war/

                            Rothman’s original never-trump attitude is coloring his read of the issue. The security guarantees are Trump’s bargaining chip. Not for Putin, but for Zelenskyy. He can’t give that without Zelenskyy getting past his “no concessions” stance. I don’t get the impression that Zelenskyy wants to accept anything less than the 2013 borders. That’s not happening without a major escalation that Zelenskyy’s allies have no stomach for. Trump needs those security agreements to bring Ukraine to the table.

                            The Brad

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                              Renauda
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                              #2697

                              @LuFins-Dad

                              I don’t agree. Zelenskyi is enough of a realist to know he cannot expect Putin return so much as a metre of occupied territory. Likewise, he will agree to the concessions agreement - he will designate one of his cabinet ministers to sign on Ukraine’s behalf. He said so yesterday at presser in the UK.

                              Elbows up!

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                                  @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

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                                  You had one job and you fucked it up.

                                  Lick your calf over again.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #2700

                                    You had one job and you fucked it up.

                                    Lick your calf over again.

                                    Better than constantly licking Trump’s ass like at least two people do in here. Right, Beauregard?

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwygxvvrd8do

                                      The US has paused intelligence sharing with Ukraine, the White House National Security Adviser said on Wednesday, adding that the administration was reviewing all aspects of its intelligence relationship with the country.

                                      When asked whether intelligence sharing had been put on hold along with military aid, Mike Waltz told reporters: "We have, we have taken a step back."

                                      The US has shared intelligence with Ukraine since the early stages of the war in 2022.

                                      At some point (probably long past), this just looks like pettiness by President Trump. "Ooooh, President Zelensky did kiss my shoes in the Oval Office. I am going to show him!!!!"

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                                        Listen, Obama did not do a thing when Putin took the Crimea. Biden had three years to push Putin out of Ukraine or cut a deal and he didn't.

                                        What wasn't of paramount importance, suddenly is. Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                                        Again, who gives a shit about the lace around the doily? Does Zelensky cut a deal or watch his country be absorbed by Russia?

                                        We're way past the kindergarten stage.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          #2703

                                          Actually, ending the war NOW is in America's best interests.

                                          If that is the case, and suspect it is for a host of defensible reasons, then it is incumbent that the US actually begin acting like the honest broker and adult in the room it says it is.

                                          At the moment the US appears anything but an adult or honest broker. Indeed it appears to be acting as a vindictive and venal third party looking to profit from the conflict.

                                          Elbows up!

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