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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 01:51 last edited by jon-nyc 3 Apr 2025, 01:52
    #2682

    Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • X xenon
      4 Mar 2025, 01:36

      @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

      U.S. aid to Ukraine put on indefinite pause.

      Is congress supposed to have any role here? Genuine question.

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      89th
      wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 01:52 last edited by
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      @xenon said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

      U.S. aid to Ukraine put on indefinite pause.

      Is congress supposed to have any role here? Genuine question.

      And a common one lately too.

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      • X xenon
        4 Mar 2025, 01:36

        @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

        U.S. aid to Ukraine put on indefinite pause.

        Is congress supposed to have any role here? Genuine question.

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        kluurs
        wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:01 last edited by
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        @xenon said in The Ukraine war thread:

        @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

        U.S. aid to Ukraine put on indefinite pause.

        Is congress supposed to have any role here? Genuine question.

        DOGE might recommend its elimination. It appears to waste money, is morally corrupt and currently, seems to be unnecessary.

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        • T taiwan_girl
          4 Mar 2025, 01:24

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          The swear expression сука блять (syka blyat’) is Russian not Ukrainian, and is commonly used in the contemporary lexicon of both languages. Ukrainians whose families originated in Western Ukraine (under Austria and Poland) then immigrated to North America before WWII, would not use it, as their swearing would be closer to the Polish kurwa mać example in the tweet.

          In any case, the term syka blyat’ is a vulgar expression of frustration or exasperation at something or at what someone either did or said. Although it cannot be translated directly into English, it is the Russian equivalent of saying Aw, for fuck sakes! or,as noted in the Tweet, fucking hell!. In any case, it is not a vulgar epithet directed at an individual person like calling them a “bitter asshole* or a “goddamned prick”.

          When I was in Serbia, they liked teaching me swear words. I still remember (I think) that "son of a b*tch" is "kurvin sin" (dont think that is spelled right - pronounced like "coor veen seen". Somewhat close to the Polish word. I am sure they all relate on the Slavic language family tree (though I dont think Polish is Slavic. 🤷 ).

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          Renauda
          wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:08 last edited by Renauda 3 Apr 2025, 02:32
          #2685

          @taiwan_girl said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          The swear expression сука блять (syka blyat’) is Russian not Ukrainian, and is commonly used in the contemporary lexicon of both languages. Ukrainians whose families originated in Western Ukraine (under Austria and Poland) then immigrated to North America before WWII, would not use it, as their swearing would be closer to the Polish kurwa mać example in the tweet.

          In any case, the term syka blyat’ is a vulgar expression of frustration or exasperation at something or at what someone either did or said. Although it cannot be translated directly into English, it is the Russian equivalent of saying Aw, for fuck sakes! or,as noted in the Tweet, fucking hell!. In any case, it is not a vulgar epithet directed at an individual person like calling them a “bitter asshole* or a “goddamned prick”.

          When I was in Serbia, they liked teaching me swear words. I still remember (I think) that "son of a b*tch" is "kurvin sin" (dont think that is spelled right - pronounced like "coor veen seen". Somewhat close to the Polish word. I am sure they all relate on the Slavic language family tree (though I dont think Polish is Slavic. 🤷 ).

          The word you’re looking for is сукин сынь (sukin syn’) Pronounced sue’keen sin

          Edit

          still remember (I think) that "son of a b*tch" is "kurvin sin" (dont think that is spelled right - pronounced like "coor veen seen".

          My bad, sorry gave it to you in Russian. They would have been teaching you in Serbo-Croatian. So yes that would be kurvin sin closer to the Polish form.

          Elbows up!

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          • J jon-nyc
            4 Mar 2025, 01:51

            Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:14 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

            FFS.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • J Jolly
              4 Mar 2025, 02:14

              @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

              FFS.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:22 last edited by
              #2687

              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
              Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

              FFS Сука блять (suka blyat’)

              FIFY

              Elbows up!

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              • J Jolly
                4 Mar 2025, 00:34

                If anything, Vance's stock went up with the base.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:25 last edited by
                #2688

                @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                If anything, Vance's stock went up with the base.

                Wrong base. And Trump knows that.

                The Brad

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                • J jon-nyc
                  4 Mar 2025, 01:51

                  Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:31 last edited by
                  #2689

                  @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Everyone’s worked with a JD Vance. In a meeting w/ the boss, 100% focused on scoring points for himself, every inch of his headspace directed at that purpose: "Is this a good opening for me? Maybe now?" Completely uninterested in what might be harmed in the process.

                  I think Vance is a little worse than that. Vance doesn’t just represent America First, he represents America First and Only. He’s a little more in the fringe my side that Trump’s been walking the tightrope with. Trump’s not an isolationist. Vance? I think he’s is.

                  The Brad

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:32 last edited by
                    #2690

                    And I was pleasantly to hear Mark Levin ripping into all of the isolationist “Republicans” tonight.

                    The Brad

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                      89th
                      wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:35 last edited by
                      #2691

                      Still weird to see Levin speak (he's on Fox now I think, or a taped podcast), anyway... listened to him on radio for years and all I can hear is his voice even when he's on video.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:37 last edited by
                        #2692

                        Aren’t there two Mark Levines in the conservative punditsphere?

                        One is a Canadian that worked for NR that was involved in the Michael Mann lawsuits. Him I used to read. I think the TV guy is a different person, no?

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:39 last edited by
                          #2693

                          I’m thinking of Mark Steyn

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:43 last edited by LuFins Dad 3 Apr 2025, 02:44
                            #2694

                            Mark Levin was an attorney working for the Reagan administration. He had some role in the Contragate hearings and became Ed Meese’s chief of staff.

                            The Brad

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:49 last edited by
                              #2695

                              Noah Rothman.

                              https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/republicans-are-fooling-themselves-on-the-ukraine-war/

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • J jon-nyc
                                4 Mar 2025, 02:49

                                Noah Rothman.

                                https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/republicans-are-fooling-themselves-on-the-ukraine-war/

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 03:05 last edited by
                                #2696

                                @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Noah Rothman.

                                https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/republicans-are-fooling-themselves-on-the-ukraine-war/

                                Rothman’s original never-trump attitude is coloring his read of the issue. The security guarantees are Trump’s bargaining chip. Not for Putin, but for Zelenskyy. He can’t give that without Zelenskyy getting past his “no concessions” stance. I don’t get the impression that Zelenskyy wants to accept anything less than the 2013 borders. That’s not happening without a major escalation that Zelenskyy’s allies have no stomach for. Trump needs those security agreements to bring Ukraine to the table.

                                The Brad

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 03:21 last edited by Renauda 3 Apr 2025, 03:21
                                  #2697

                                  @LuFins-Dad

                                  I don’t agree. Zelenskyi is enough of a realist to know he cannot expect Putin return so much as a metre of occupied territory. Likewise, he will agree to the concessions agreement - he will designate one of his cabinet ministers to sign on Ukraine’s behalf. He said so yesterday at presser in the UK.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 16:52 last edited by
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 17:58 last edited by
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                                      @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

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                                      You had one job and you fucked it up.

                                      Lick your calf over again.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 18:03 last edited by Renauda 3 Apr 2025, 18:10
                                        #2700

                                        You had one job and you fucked it up.

                                        Lick your calf over again.

                                        Better than constantly licking Trump’s ass like at least two people do in here. Right, Beauregard?

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 5 Mar 2025, 17:50 last edited by
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                                          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwygxvvrd8do

                                          The US has paused intelligence sharing with Ukraine, the White House National Security Adviser said on Wednesday, adding that the administration was reviewing all aspects of its intelligence relationship with the country.

                                          When asked whether intelligence sharing had been put on hold along with military aid, Mike Waltz told reporters: "We have, we have taken a step back."

                                          The US has shared intelligence with Ukraine since the early stages of the war in 2022.

                                          At some point (probably long past), this just looks like pettiness by President Trump. "Ooooh, President Zelensky did kiss my shoes in the Oval Office. I am going to show him!!!!"

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