The Ukraine war thread

[LuFins Dad]

[AndyD]

To Republicans:

Is this the Commander in Chief you voted for, or has he turned out to be something very different to your expectations?

[Copper]

@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

We witnessed President Trump acting like a handmaiden to a Russian dictator

Handmaidens to Russian dictators don't put a show like that on live TV.

As Mr. Trump said, during the mortifying spectacle, he wanted the American people to see that.

Mr. Trump welcomes you all to the USA.

[Horace]

@AndyD said in The Ukraine war thread:

To Republicans:

Is this the Commander in Chief you voted for, or has he turned out to be something very different to your expectations?

I would not have expected Trump to back down from the push-back from Zelensky.

I really wish Zelensky had been more deferential. While the Trump haters will be indulging in their orgy of blaming Trump for all of this, Zelensky made some very obvious choices, and now we will watch the consequences.

[kluurs]

Next step, Trump provides US intelligence to the Russians - later, he'll ship supplies.

[jon-nyc]

@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

Which of his sentences do you disagree with?

Sam's not here to defend himself, so I am honor bound not to respond.

Out of curiosity, where did you find that? Do you subscribe to his substack?

[Horace]

@jon-nyc I give him money and he sends me stuff in emails.

[Horace]

I don't know if it's coincidence, but the market rose a couple % after the fiasco. If certainty was instilled, which as we all know the market loves, it is terrible news for Ukraine.

[Copper]

@AndyD said in The Ukraine war thread:

Is this the Commander in Chief you voted for, or has he turned out to be something very different to your expectations?

I voted for the non-traditional approach.

I've made my support back many times over.

[jon-nyc]

@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

@jon-nyc I give him money and he sends me stuff in emails.

I subscribe to his podcast but haven't looked into his sub stack.

[jon-nyc]

Love the comment.

[Horace]

If Zelensky steps down over fallout from this, I'm going to think that was his plan all along.

[NobodySock]

It's clear that Putin ordered Trump to have this meeting out in the open. He's constantly testing Trump's allegiance. There's got to be something bigger than pee pee tapes that he's holding over his head.

[Jolly]

No deal. No meal. Come back when you're serious.

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/28/trump-zelensky-oval-office-meeting-details

[jon-nyc]

@NobodySock

That’s probably too generous.

I’m afraid the plain truth is that Trump is obsequious to Putin simply because he wants to be.

[Jolly]

https://babylonbee.com/news/zelensky-tries-bold-new-strategy-of-insulting-the-people-hes-begging-for-money-from

[LuFins Dad]

[LuFins Dad]

Ukrainian MP calling for Zelenskyy to be impeached.

[Horace]

That was the plan, I am now convinced of it.

[Horace]

Anybody taking Zelensky seriously, is seriously considering him to be suicidal, not only for himself, but for his country.

These are probably many of the same people who think Russia would never do a nuclear war, because of self interest. Because as an axiom, a country's leader will not be suicidal.

I do respect that axiom, but if it holds true, then Zelensky was not serious today, except as a person who was taking serious steps towards stepping down as leader of his country.