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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #2513

    The white house canceled the planned joint press conference between Trump and Zelensky.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #2514

      So… No mineral deal?

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #2515

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        The Brad

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        • A Offline
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          AndyD
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          #2516

          To Republicans:

          Is this the Commander in Chief you voted for, or has he turned out to be something very different to your expectations?

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          • HoraceH Horace

            Sam Harris weighs in:

            That was a mortifying spectacle in the Oval Office today. We witnessed President Trump acting like a handmaiden to a Russian dictator, while processing everything—US foreign policy, world history, the fate of millions—through the lens of his own grandiosity, pettiness, and personal grievances. Trump is siding with a man who has all but threatened us with nuclear annihilation over our support for an independent Ukraine. Putin's troops have routinely subjected Ukrainian POWs to torture. They have stolen tens of thousands of Ukrainian children and repatriated them to Russia. And we now have President and Vice President who blame the victims for all the misery and death that has been imposed on them (and for not saying “thank you” when they do this). Where do we go to get our country's moral stature back?

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            Copper
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            #2517

            @Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

            We witnessed President Trump acting like a handmaiden to a Russian dictator

            Handmaidens to Russian dictators don't put a show like that on live TV.

            As Mr. Trump said, during the mortifying spectacle, he wanted the American people to see that.

            Mr. Trump welcomes you all to the USA.

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            • A AndyD

              To Republicans:

              Is this the Commander in Chief you voted for, or has he turned out to be something very different to your expectations?

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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #2518

              @AndyD said in The Ukraine war thread:

              To Republicans:

              Is this the Commander in Chief you voted for, or has he turned out to be something very different to your expectations?

              I would not have expected Trump to back down from the push-back from Zelensky.

              I really wish Zelensky had been more deferential. While the Trump haters will be indulging in their orgy of blaming Trump for all of this, Zelensky made some very obvious choices, and now we will watch the consequences.

              Education is extremely important.

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                kluurs
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                #2519

                Next step, Trump provides US intelligence to the Russians - later, he'll ship supplies.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Which of his sentences do you disagree with?

                  Sam's not here to defend himself, so I am honor bound not to respond.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2520

                  @Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Which of his sentences do you disagree with?

                  Sam's not here to defend himself, so I am honor bound not to respond.

                  Out of curiosity, where did you find that? Do you subscribe to his substack?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Which of his sentences do you disagree with?

                    Sam's not here to defend himself, so I am honor bound not to respond.

                    Out of curiosity, where did you find that? Do you subscribe to his substack?

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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2521

                    @jon-nyc I give him money and he sends me stuff in emails.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2522

                      I don't know if it's coincidence, but the market rose a couple % after the fiasco. If certainty was instilled, which as we all know the market loves, it is terrible news for Ukraine.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • A AndyD

                        To Republicans:

                        Is this the Commander in Chief you voted for, or has he turned out to be something very different to your expectations?

                        CopperC Online
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                        Copper
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2523

                        @AndyD said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Is this the Commander in Chief you voted for, or has he turned out to be something very different to your expectations?

                        I voted for the non-traditional approach.

                        I've made my support back many times over.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @jon-nyc I give him money and he sends me stuff in emails.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2524

                          @Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          @jon-nyc I give him money and he sends me stuff in emails.

                          I subscribe to his podcast but haven't looked into his sub stack.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2525

                            Love the comment.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2526

                              If Zelensky steps down over fallout from this, I'm going to think that was his plan all along.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                NobodySock
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                                #2527

                                It's clear that Putin ordered Trump to have this meeting out in the open. He's constantly testing Trump's allegiance. There's got to be something bigger than pee pee tapes that he's holding over his head.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2528

                                  No deal. No meal. Come back when you're serious.

                                  https://www.axios.com/2025/02/28/trump-zelensky-oval-office-meeting-details

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #2529

                                    @NobodySock

                                    That’s probably too generous.

                                    I’m afraid the plain truth is that Trump is obsequious to Putin simply because he wants to be.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      Jolly
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                                      #2530

                                      https://babylonbee.com/news/zelensky-tries-bold-new-strategy-of-insulting-the-people-hes-begging-for-money-from

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        The Brad

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2532

                                          Ukrainian MP calling for Zelenskyy to be impeached.

                                          The Brad

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