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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #2361

    Putin refuses to face Zelensky directly in any armistice negotiations:

    "If [Zelensky] wants to participate in the negotiations, I will send people to take part," Putin said in comments to state TV journalist Pavel Zarubin, calling the Ukrainian leader "illegitimate" since his presidential term expired last year during martial law.

    Putin will stop at nothing to pit Zelenskyi against Trump in the negotiation process. This is only his opening gambit salvo.

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/01/29/putin-says-ukraine-peace-talks-possible-but-not-with-zelensky-a87775

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #2362

      Yep. That's exactly what he's doing.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by
        #2363

        The Kremlin continues to win the hearts and minds of Ukrainians:

        Russia launched a large-scale attack on several regions overnight, hitting residential buildings in Odesa, Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhia, Presidential Office head Andriy Yermak said. "Attacks on residential buildings, civilians, typical tactics of the Russian army," he wrote on Telegram.

        https://kyivindependent.com/at-least-3-dead-10-injured-in-poltava-after-russia-attacks-residential-building/

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #2364

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/is-russia-s-war-machine-finally-facing-bankruptcy/ar-AA1yj3U5

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • taiwan_girlT Offline
            taiwan_girlT Offline
            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #2365

            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0rqj171zzvo

            The leader of a pro-Russian paramilitary group in eastern Ukraine has died in hospital after being injured in an explosion in Moscow on Monday morning, Russian media have said.

            Armen Sargsyan, the leader of the "Arbat" battalion, was severely injured following a blast in the entrance hall of a residential building in north-west Moscow, 12km (7 miles) from the Kremlin.

            He was evacuated to a hospital by helicopter and placed in intensive care after the explosion, but eventually succumbed to his injuries, according to usually reliable Telegram sources.

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #2366

              Too bad. I don’t feel the least bit sorry.

              Slava Ukraini

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #2367

                In Moscow. How about that.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • W Offline
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                  Wim
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2368

                  But-but-but his friend Putin wants them too...

                  https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/trump-says-he-wants-ukraine-supply-us-with-rare-earths-2025-02-03/

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #2369

                    @Wim

                    Zelenskyi should consider offering them to Trump in exchange for becoming the 51st state. He offered that option - we also
                    have huge untapped reserves of rare earths- to us just a few hours back, but we refused.

                    Zelenskyi might just take him up on the offer. Under the present circumstances, if I were Zelenskyi, I would give it serious consideration. Certainly a long term end to the war and one the EU would be perfectly ammenable.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @Wim

                      Zelenskyi should consider offering them to Trump in exchange for becoming the 51st state. He offered that option - we also
                      have huge untapped reserves of rare earths- to us just a few hours back, but we refused.

                      Zelenskyi might just take him up on the offer. Under the present circumstances, if I were Zelenskyi, I would give it serious consideration. Certainly a long term end to the war and one the EU would be perfectly ammenable.

                      W Offline
                      W Offline
                      Wim
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2370

                      @Renauda My thought as well.

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                      • W Wim

                        @Renauda My thought as well.

                        RenaudaR Offline
                        RenaudaR Offline
                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2371

                        @Wim

                        I was being facetious. Still, though……it would send Putin into an apoplectic fit.

                        Go for it!

                        😆

                        Elbows up!

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                        • W Offline
                          W Offline
                          Wim
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2372

                          Well, there is Pokrovsk...
                          Trump better hurry.

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                          • RenaudaR Offline
                            RenaudaR Offline
                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #2373

                            Something is coming down between the Kremlin and Washington in weeks ahead:

                            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/06/putin-trump-talks-expected-in-february-or-march-senior-russian-lawmaker-says-a87894

                            Curious whether Washington sees fit to ensure that Zelenskyi will be an in-person part and at the table throughout the process.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2374

                              https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/07/russia-withdraws-north-korea-troops-kursk-deaths-ukraine-war

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • RenaudaR Offline
                                RenaudaR Offline
                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                #2375

                                According to Kyiv, the Norks are back again for more punishment:

                                Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Friday that North Korean troops were back on the front line in Russia's Kursk region, after reports Moscow had withdrawn them due to heavy losses.

                                https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/07/zelensky-says-north-korean-troops-back-on-russian-front-line-a87915

                                Elbows up!

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by Mik
                                  #2376

                                  Less mouths for Kim to feed. Not that he feeds them...

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • RenaudaR Offline
                                    RenaudaR Offline
                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2377

                                    Hegseth begins laying out US position to bring about an armistice:

                                    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0pz3er37jo

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • HoraceH Offline
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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #2378

                                      "But we must start by recognising that returning to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic objective.

                                      "Chasing this illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering."

                                      That is what I hear from everybody who seems serious on the subject.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • RenaudaR Offline
                                        RenaudaR Offline
                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #2379

                                        @Horace

                                        You are correct. The past year and a half or so of attrition has erased any illusions of a return to 2014 borders. Likewise NATO membership in the foreseeable future.

                                        The challenge in the armistice negotiations will be limiting Putin to what he already has occupied militarily and not a yard more. Likewise, the question of what Russia will demand as reparations from Ukraine and the West.

                                        Then the security guarantees for Ukraine. There can be no illusions on the part of the US that Russia will negotiate or agree to anything in good faith.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2380

                                          I'm afraid the best we can do is stop the fighting. But that only kicks the can down the road.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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