The Ukraine war thread

[Mik]

Wrong place, wrong time. By place, I mean Ukraine.

[Renauda]

So Patrushev is appointed Putin’s Special Aid. Not sure what it means but I am confident the secret police and security services will benefit at everyone’s expense.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-69007468

[George K]

[George K]

The Ukrainian Black Sea Submarine fleet got bigger recently.

[Mik]

What, no video? I suspect a missile cruiser would make a pretty big fireball.

[Wim]

Putin always tells the truth. Oh wait, maybe not: https://www.kyivpost.com/videos/33098

[Jolly]

The wrong training...

https://www.businessinsider.com/western-fighters-die-in-ukraine-assume-be-easy-us-veteran-2024-5

[Mik]

It is beyond me how any veteran could assume any war would be easy.

[George K]

[George K]

[Renauda]

Kremlin tells West told to stop “provoking Ukraine to continue this senseless war”:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqq2zn3zw6o

You can be assured that Berlin would have said similar if not the same, had Czechoslovakia fought back against the Nazi invasion and annexation in 1938. That it didn’t fight back, paved the way to the rape of Poland the following year.

[taiwan_girl]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

50 years from now, Russia will be on its way to disappearing. They were already having population problems, and now this war, and the fact that any male who is able to leave has left, means that a whole generation + is wiped out. And it is the most important generation for the economy.

[George K]

@taiwan_girl said in The Ukraine war thread:

They were already having population problems, and now this war, and the fact that any male who is able to leave has left, means that a whole generation + is wiped out.

Link to video

The number of military-aged men is quite small.

[taiwan_girl]

Wow! Seeing that movie shows that. I guess if you are guy who is looking to date, you are in a good position, but other than that........... not so good.

[Jolly]

Mirage to Ukraine...

https://defence-blog.com/ukraine-to-get-fighter-jets-from-france/

That's not as promising as it sounds. Ukraine is getting over 100 F-16 fighters, but only has 22 pilots trained to fly them and is begging for training slots at any nation that will take them. I suppose the same problem will exist with the Mirage fighters...

[Wim]

Training us supposed to take 6 to 7 months, starting this summer...
Go figure ️

[Mik]

Should have supplied them in 22.

[Jolly]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

Should have supplied them in 22.

You are right.

I'm not big on foreign wars, but if Ukraine needed the tools to stop Mr. Putin, they need the tools. Not in dribs and drabs, but in sufficient quantity to achieve the mission.

The Biden Administration has been very careful to never give the Ukranians quite enough at the right time, to make a distinctive difference.

[George K]

@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

never give the Ukranians quite enough at the right time,

Yeah, it's almost like he's a Russian agent. I wonder what dirt Putin has on him.

Wait, once again, that's from the wrong year.

Sorry.

[Renauda]

The ambiguity and emptiness of Putin’s red lines in Ukraine:

https://open.substack.com/pub/samf/p/fuzzy-red-lines-in-ukraine?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email