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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #2176

    The Ukrainian Black Sea Submarine fleet got bigger recently.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #2177

      What, no video? I suspect a missile cruiser would make a pretty big fireball.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • W Offline
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        Wim
        wrote on last edited by
        #2178

        Putin always tells the truth. Oh wait, maybe not: https://www.kyivpost.com/videos/33098

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #2179

          The wrong training...

          https://www.businessinsider.com/western-fighters-die-in-ukraine-assume-be-easy-us-veteran-2024-5

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #2180

            It is beyond me how any veteran could assume any war would be easy.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #2181

              image.jpeg

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #2182

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #2183

                  Kremlin tells West told to stop “provoking Ukraine to continue this senseless war”:

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqq2zn3zw6o

                  You can be assured that Berlin would have said similar if not the same, had Czechoslovakia fought back against the Nazi invasion and annexation in 1938. That it didn’t fight back, paved the way to the rape of Poland the following year.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • George KG George K

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                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2184

                    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    image.jpeg

                    50 years from now, Russia will be on its way to disappearing. They were already having population problems, and now this war, and the fact that any male who is able to leave has left, means that a whole generation + is wiped out. And it is the most important generation for the economy.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      image.jpeg

                      50 years from now, Russia will be on its way to disappearing. They were already having population problems, and now this war, and the fact that any male who is able to leave has left, means that a whole generation + is wiped out. And it is the most important generation for the economy.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2185

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      They were already having population problems, and now this war, and the fact that any male who is able to leave has left, means that a whole generation + is wiped out.

                      Link to video

                      The number of military-aged men is quite small.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2186

                        Wow! Seeing that movie shows that. I guess if you are guy who is looking to date, you are in a good position, but other than that........... not so good.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2187

                          Mirage to Ukraine...

                          https://defence-blog.com/ukraine-to-get-fighter-jets-from-france/

                          That's not as promising as it sounds. Ukraine is getting over 100 F-16 fighters, but only has 22 pilots trained to fly them and is begging for training slots at any nation that will take them. I suppose the same problem will exist with the Mirage fighters...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • W Offline
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                            Wim
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2188

                            Training us supposed to take 6 to 7 months, starting this summer...
                            Go figure ☹️

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2189

                              Should have supplied them in 22.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Should have supplied them in 22.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2190

                                @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Should have supplied them in 22.

                                You are right.

                                I'm not big on foreign wars, but if Ukraine needed the tools to stop Mr. Putin, they need the tools. Not in dribs and drabs, but in sufficient quantity to achieve the mission.

                                The Biden Administration has been very careful to never give the Ukranians quite enough at the right time, to make a distinctive difference.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Should have supplied them in 22.

                                  You are right.

                                  I'm not big on foreign wars, but if Ukraine needed the tools to stop Mr. Putin, they need the tools. Not in dribs and drabs, but in sufficient quantity to achieve the mission.

                                  The Biden Administration has been very careful to never give the Ukranians quite enough at the right time, to make a distinctive difference.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2191

                                  @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  never give the Ukranians quite enough at the right time,

                                  Yeah, it's almost like he's a Russian agent. I wonder what dirt Putin has on him.

                                  Wait, once again, that's from the wrong year.

                                  Sorry.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2192

                                    The ambiguity and emptiness of Putin’s red lines in Ukraine:

                                    https://open.substack.com/pub/samf/p/fuzzy-red-lines-in-ukraine?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                                      #2193

                                      https://wapo.st/3Vll45U

                                      https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/biden-zelenskyy-sign-us-ukraine-security-agreement-g7/story?id=111061390

                                      Biden, Zelensky to sign 10-year U.S.-Ukraine security deal at G-7 summit

                                      Supposedly the agreement "will commit Washington to supply Kyiv with a wide range of military assistance." But unlike NATO, it does not require the U.S. to respond if Ukraine is attacked.

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2194

                                        An interesting piece on the possibility of going nuclear.

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-nuclear-arsenal-is-crumbling-ukraine-can-take-it-out-for-good/ar-BB1oe8Nv?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=78d48b0c768a4563879c728536b1d3dc&ei=13

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • W Offline
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                                          Wim
                                          wrote on last edited by Wim
                                          #2195

                                          Russia hosts approx. 5900 nuclear arms. Assuming that a lot of them are out of use, Putin still has enough to make his threats believable.
                                          I think this article is a tad too optimistic.

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