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  • G George K
    12 May 2024, 23:15

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    Renauda
    wrote on 12 May 2024, 23:53 last edited by Renauda
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    @George-K

    Not quite. Shoigu will replace Nikolai Patrushev as Head of the RF Security Council. Not exactly a demotion.

    What is more significant is where Putin places Patrushev. He is perhaps the most ruthless, paranoid and hawkish of Putin’s inner circle of siloviki. He could well be Putin’s Beria. Does not bode well for anyone with Russian citizenship in country or for the relatives left in country of any Russian living abroad.

    Just another step towards becoming a European version of North Korea.

    Edit: Shoigu’s replacement at the MinDef is Andrei Belousov until now First Dep Prime Minister. Belousov is a highly regarded technocrat bean counter. A Winston Wolf kind of guy who fixes things.

    Elbows up!

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      George K
      wrote on 13 May 2024, 00:39 last edited by
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      @Renauda thanks for the insights. I really appreciate them.

      Sometimes breathless Twitter....

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • G George K
        13 May 2024, 00:39

        @Renauda thanks for the insights. I really appreciate them.

        Sometimes breathless Twitter....

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        wrote on 13 May 2024, 00:44 last edited by
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        @George-K

        I didn’t mean to leave the impression though, that Shoigu is now safe anywhere near a window in a multi-storey building. He’s clearly not at all safe.

        Elbows up!

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          George K
          wrote on 13 May 2024, 22:23 last edited by
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          Warning - graphic drone strike.

          ***Gory War Stuff***

          click to show


          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Mik
            wrote on 13 May 2024, 22:27 last edited by
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            Wrong place, wrong time. By place, I mean Ukraine.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Renauda
              wrote on 14 May 2024, 13:04 last edited by
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              So Patrushev is appointed Putin’s Special Aid. Not sure what it means but I am confident the secret police and security services will benefit at everyone’s expense.

              https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-69007468

              Elbows up!

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                George K
                wrote on 14 May 2024, 16:28 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 20 May 2024, 18:39 last edited by
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                  The Ukrainian Black Sea Submarine fleet got bigger recently.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 20 May 2024, 22:55 last edited by
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                    What, no video? I suspect a missile cruiser would make a pretty big fireball.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Wim
                      wrote on 22 May 2024, 19:52 last edited by
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                      Putin always tells the truth. Oh wait, maybe not: https://www.kyivpost.com/videos/33098

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 28 May 2024, 13:17 last edited by
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                        The wrong training...

                        https://www.businessinsider.com/western-fighters-die-in-ukraine-assume-be-easy-us-veteran-2024-5

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 28 May 2024, 13:27 last edited by
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                          It is beyond me how any veteran could assume any war would be easy.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            George K
                            wrote on 31 May 2024, 11:16 last edited by
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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 31 May 2024, 11:22 last edited by
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 31 May 2024, 13:46 last edited by Renauda
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                                Kremlin tells West told to stop “provoking Ukraine to continue this senseless war”:

                                https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqq2zn3zw6o

                                You can be assured that Berlin would have said similar if not the same, had Czechoslovakia fought back against the Nazi invasion and annexation in 1938. That it didn’t fight back, paved the way to the rape of Poland the following year.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  31 May 2024, 11:16

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 1 Jun 2024, 08:49 last edited by
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                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

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                                  50 years from now, Russia will be on its way to disappearing. They were already having population problems, and now this war, and the fact that any male who is able to leave has left, means that a whole generation + is wiped out. And it is the most important generation for the economy.

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                                    1 Jun 2024, 08:49

                                    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

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                                    50 years from now, Russia will be on its way to disappearing. They were already having population problems, and now this war, and the fact that any male who is able to leave has left, means that a whole generation + is wiped out. And it is the most important generation for the economy.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 1 Jun 2024, 11:48 last edited by
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                                    @taiwan_girl said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    They were already having population problems, and now this war, and the fact that any male who is able to leave has left, means that a whole generation + is wiped out.

                                    Link to video

                                    The number of military-aged men is quite small.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 1 Jun 2024, 23:08 last edited by
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                                      Wow! Seeing that movie shows that. I guess if you are guy who is looking to date, you are in a good position, but other than that........... not so good.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 8 Jun 2024, 13:40 last edited by
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                                        Mirage to Ukraine...

                                        https://defence-blog.com/ukraine-to-get-fighter-jets-from-france/

                                        That's not as promising as it sounds. Ukraine is getting over 100 F-16 fighters, but only has 22 pilots trained to fly them and is begging for training slots at any nation that will take them. I suppose the same problem will exist with the Mirage fighters...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Wim
                                          wrote on 8 Jun 2024, 14:47 last edited by
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                                          Training us supposed to take 6 to 7 months, starting this summer...
                                          Go figure ☹️

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