The Ukraine war thread

[Jolly]

Russia is fighting as Russia does. And unless Europe steps up bigly, Russia will win this war and take however much of Ukraine they want within the next 24 months.

[Renauda]

Macron is talking of sending troops, the British implying they would consider it and the Poles are watching and waiting. Romanians are doing the same. Might just happen. All are members of NATO.

Wonder that if it were to happen that they pull the trigger, that’s sufficiently bigly for some?

[Horace]

WW3 or Russia wins. Which was the prediction at the start, as far as I’m aware.

[Copper]

@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

WW3 or Russia wins.

A WW could solve a lot of problems.

Russia wins, just leads to the next one, which makes the WW a little more difficult.

[Renauda]

A WW could solve a lot of problems

Yes, DEI and everything progressivism entails, good and bad, would be consigned to the rubbish heap of history.

Hell, even cigarette smoking might even make a socially acceptable come back.

Best of all, there will be jobs, jobs and more jobs in manufacturing and the oil and gas sector. Cost of labour will drop.

Any remaining leftists - male, female or gender identified fucked up - will be either incarcerated and lobotomised or sent directly to the front lines as expendable shock or diversionary forces

[George K]

[Renauda]

@George-K

Not quite. Shoigu will replace Nikolai Patrushev as Head of the RF Security Council. Not exactly a demotion.

What is more significant is where Putin places Patrushev. He is perhaps the most ruthless, paranoid and hawkish of Putin’s inner circle of siloviki. He could well be Putin’s Beria. Does not bode well for anyone with Russian citizenship in country or for the relatives left in country of any Russian living abroad.

Just another step towards becoming a European version of North Korea.

Edit: Shoigu’s replacement at the MinDef is Andrei Belousov until now First Dep Prime Minister. Belousov is a highly regarded technocrat bean counter. A Winston Wolf kind of guy who fixes things.

[George K]

@Renauda thanks for the insights. I really appreciate them.

Sometimes breathless Twitter....

[Renauda]

@George-K

I didn’t mean to leave the impression though, that Shoigu is now safe anywhere near a window in a multi-storey building. He’s clearly not at all safe.

[George K]

Warning - graphic drone strike.

***Gory War Stuff***

click to show

[Mik]

Wrong place, wrong time. By place, I mean Ukraine.

[Renauda]

So Patrushev is appointed Putin’s Special Aid. Not sure what it means but I am confident the secret police and security services will benefit at everyone’s expense.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-69007468

[George K]

[George K]

The Ukrainian Black Sea Submarine fleet got bigger recently.

[Mik]

What, no video? I suspect a missile cruiser would make a pretty big fireball.

[Wim]

Putin always tells the truth. Oh wait, maybe not: https://www.kyivpost.com/videos/33098

[Jolly]

The wrong training...

https://www.businessinsider.com/western-fighters-die-in-ukraine-assume-be-easy-us-veteran-2024-5

[Mik]

It is beyond me how any veteran could assume any war would be easy.

[George K]

[George K]