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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #2163

    Russia is fighting as Russia does. And unless Europe steps up bigly, Russia will win this war and take however much of Ukraine they want within the next 24 months.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #2164

      Macron is talking of sending troops, the British implying they would consider it and the Poles are watching and waiting. Romanians are doing the same. Might just happen. All are members of NATO.

      Wonder that if it were to happen that they pull the trigger, that’s sufficiently bigly for some?

      Elbows up!

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #2165

        WW3 or Russia wins. Which was the prediction at the start, as far as I’m aware.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          WW3 or Russia wins. Which was the prediction at the start, as far as I’m aware.

          CopperC Offline
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          Copper
          wrote on last edited by
          #2166

          @Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:

          WW3 or Russia wins.

          A WW could solve a lot of problems.

          Russia wins, just leads to the next one, which makes the WW a little more difficult.

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #2167

            A WW could solve a lot of problems

            Yes, DEI and everything progressivism entails, good and bad, would be consigned to the rubbish heap of history.

            Hell, even cigarette smoking might even make a socially acceptable come back.

            Best of all, there will be jobs, jobs and more jobs in manufacturing and the oil and gas sector. Cost of labour will drop.

            Any remaining leftists - male, female or gender identified fucked up - will be either incarcerated and lobotomised or sent directly to the front lines as expendable shock or diversionary forces

            Elbows up!

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #2168

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #2169

                @George-K

                Not quite. Shoigu will replace Nikolai Patrushev as Head of the RF Security Council. Not exactly a demotion.

                What is more significant is where Putin places Patrushev. He is perhaps the most ruthless, paranoid and hawkish of Putin’s inner circle of siloviki. He could well be Putin’s Beria. Does not bode well for anyone with Russian citizenship in country or for the relatives left in country of any Russian living abroad.

                Just another step towards becoming a European version of North Korea.

                Edit: Shoigu’s replacement at the MinDef is Andrei Belousov until now First Dep Prime Minister. Belousov is a highly regarded technocrat bean counter. A Winston Wolf kind of guy who fixes things.

                Elbows up!

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2170

                  @Renauda thanks for the insights. I really appreciate them.

                  Sometimes breathless Twitter....

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Renauda thanks for the insights. I really appreciate them.

                    Sometimes breathless Twitter....

                    RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2171

                    @George-K

                    I didn’t mean to leave the impression though, that Shoigu is now safe anywhere near a window in a multi-storey building. He’s clearly not at all safe.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2172

                      Warning - graphic drone strike.

                      ***Gory War Stuff***

                      click to show


                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2173

                        Wrong place, wrong time. By place, I mean Ukraine.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2174

                          So Patrushev is appointed Putin’s Special Aid. Not sure what it means but I am confident the secret police and security services will benefit at everyone’s expense.

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-69007468

                          Elbows up!

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2175

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2176

                              The Ukrainian Black Sea Submarine fleet got bigger recently.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2177

                                What, no video? I suspect a missile cruiser would make a pretty big fireball.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • W Do not disturb
                                  W Do not disturb
                                  Wim
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2178

                                  Putin always tells the truth. Oh wait, maybe not: https://www.kyivpost.com/videos/33098

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2179

                                    The wrong training...

                                    https://www.businessinsider.com/western-fighters-die-in-ukraine-assume-be-easy-us-veteran-2024-5

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #2180

                                      It is beyond me how any veteran could assume any war would be easy.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2181

                                        image.jpeg

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG Offline
                                          George KG Offline
                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2182

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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