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    Renauda
    wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 17:45 last edited by Renauda
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    US allegedly cautions Ukraine about targeting Russian oil refineries:

    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/29929

    FT is a reliably credible source. Will have to see how this plays out over time. Don’t see how hitting Russian refineries affects the global price all that much. Russia primarily produces refined fuel for its own domestic use. About 24% of refined product including LNG is exported - primarily to Turkey, Brazil, China and India. Some is also exported to Belarus. FWIW, the Kremlin has been cutting its oil production during the last several months. That would have an impact on oil prices, not taking out refineries.

    Elbows up!

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      22 Mar 2024, 17:45

      US allegedly cautions Ukraine about targeting Russian oil refineries:

      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/29929

      FT is a reliably credible source. Will have to see how this plays out over time. Don’t see how hitting Russian refineries affects the global price all that much. Russia primarily produces refined fuel for its own domestic use. About 24% of refined product including LNG is exported - primarily to Turkey, Brazil, China and India. Some is also exported to Belarus. FWIW, the Kremlin has been cutting its oil production during the last several months. That would have an impact on oil prices, not taking out refineries.

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      George K
      wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 18:11 last edited by
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      @Renauda perhaps Senator Schumer will call for a cease-fire as well!

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 18:12 last edited by Renauda
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        Am sure Putin will veto that..

        In the meantime, Ukrainian fighter pilots graduate RAF training school:

        https://www.forces.net/services/raf/raf-take-ukrainians-under-their-wing-intensive-combat-flying-training?utm_source=Forces+Newsletter&utm_campaign=5a651f173a-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2024_03_22_11_33&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-5a651f173a-[LIST_EMAIL_ID]

        Elbows up!

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          George K
          wrote on 24 Mar 2024, 11:56 last edited by
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          The Russian Black Sea submarine fleet got bigger last night:

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 24 Mar 2024, 11:59 last edited by
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            And three more planes:

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Mik
              wrote on 24 Mar 2024, 12:44 last edited by
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              Good news on a sunny Sunday!

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                George K
                wrote on 24 Mar 2024, 16:03 last edited by
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                Screenshot 2024-03-24 at 10.41.11 AM.png

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 24 Mar 2024, 16:37 last edited by
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                  Love Catzilla.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 16:42 last edited by
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                    Another one bites the dust

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-80-000-000-spy-ship-taken-out-by-massive-missile-strike/ar-BB1ktRmu?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=1647a1b2caef496c89a61b17ab105050&ei=12

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      George K
                      wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 11:42 last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 28 Mar 2024, 18:45 last edited by George K
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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          28 Mar 2024, 18:45

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 28 Mar 2024, 23:07 last edited by
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                          @George-K

                          Seems that it just gets better with every episode of Mikhailov’s Navy.

                          Elbows up!

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 00:28 last edited by
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                            I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              29 Mar 2024, 00:28

                              I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 00:43 last edited by
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                              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

                              Good point. Somewhere, perhaps in a link I posted a while ago, there was a comment that Ukraine's attacks on the refineries has cut Russian oil processing by 13% or so.

                              I also saw a story that the Biden administration has cautioned that Ukraine should not strike targets outside its borders.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 1 Apr 2024, 12:54 last edited by
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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Wim
                                  wrote on 1 Apr 2024, 18:08 last edited by
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                                  Russian tank attack crushed near Adviivka

                                  https://www.kyivpost.com/post/30428

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 1 Apr 2024, 18:23 last edited by
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                                    Ukrainian civilians in cities and towns will pay dearly for this.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 2 Apr 2024, 13:16 last edited by
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                                      Gotta wonder how it evaded Russian radar for 800 miles.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        1 Apr 2024, 18:23

                                        Ukrainian civilians in cities and towns will pay dearly for this.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 2 Apr 2024, 14:58 last edited by
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                                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Ukrainian civilians in cities and towns will pay dearly for this.

                                        That seems to be the only thing Russia can do competently.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 2 Apr 2024, 15:14 last edited by Renauda 4 Feb 2024, 15:14
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                                          That and feed its soldiers into the meat grinder.

                                          Elbows up!

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