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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 01:35 last edited by
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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/11/trump-ukraine-war-viktor-orban

    Donald Trump “will not give a penny” to Ukraine if he is re-elected US president, the far-right Hungarian prime minister, Viktor Orbán, said after a controversial meeting with Trump in Florida.

    “He will not give a penny in the Ukraine-Russia war,” Orbán told state media in Hungary on Sunday. “Therefore, the war will end, because it is obvious that Ukraine can not stand on its own feet.”

    and

    Calling Trump “a man of peace”, Orbán said: “If the Americans don’t give money and weapons, along with the Europeans, the war is over. And if the Americans don’t give money, the Europeans alone can’t finance this war. And then the war is over.” (This would likely mean Ukraine losing the war to Russia.)

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      Mik
      wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 01:43 last edited by
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      Somehow that’s not the wise statesmanship I think we need.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Wim
        wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 09:47 last edited by
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        Fights within Russia

        https://www.kyivpost.com/post/29369

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          Mik
          wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 11:20 last edited by
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          From little acorns...

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            12 Mar 2024, 01:35

            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/11/trump-ukraine-war-viktor-orban

            Donald Trump “will not give a penny” to Ukraine if he is re-elected US president, the far-right Hungarian prime minister, Viktor Orbán, said after a controversial meeting with Trump in Florida.

            “He will not give a penny in the Ukraine-Russia war,” Orbán told state media in Hungary on Sunday. “Therefore, the war will end, because it is obvious that Ukraine can not stand on its own feet.”

            and

            Calling Trump “a man of peace”, Orbán said: “If the Americans don’t give money and weapons, along with the Europeans, the war is over. And if the Americans don’t give money, the Europeans alone can’t finance this war. And then the war is over.” (This would likely mean Ukraine losing the war to Russia.)

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            Renauda
            wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 15:16 last edited by Renauda 3 Dec 2024, 19:28
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            @taiwan_girl

            Calling Trump “a man of peace”, Orbán said…

            Funny, Nikki Haley and others of notable rank and station, who know Trump much better than Orban will ever hope, refer to him as a “man of chaos”.

            Soon Orban, the court jester he is, will be referring to the Duke of Mar-a-Lago, my Liege.

            Elbows up!

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              12 Mar 2024, 15:16

              @taiwan_girl

              Calling Trump “a man of peace”, Orbán said…

              Funny, Nikki Haley and others of notable rank and station, who know Trump much better than Orban will ever hope, refer to him as a “man of chaos”.

              Soon Orban, the court jester he is, will be referring to the Duke of Mar-a-Lago, my Liege.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 13 Mar 2024, 00:17 last edited by
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              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @taiwan_girl

              Calling Trump “a man of peace”, Orbán said…

              Funny, Nikki Haley and others of notable rank and station, who know Trump much better than Orban will ever hope, refer to him as a “man of chaos”.

              Soon Orban, the court jester he is, will be referring to the Duke of Mar-a-Lago, my Liege.

              Nah, Mr. President will do.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Renauda
                wrote on 13 Mar 2024, 00:30 last edited by Renauda
                #2098

                No, in Viktor Orban’s world, the title Mr. President is already reserved for Tsar Putin.

                Elbows up!

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                  George K
                  wrote on 13 Mar 2024, 12:51 last edited by
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                  Ukrainians hitting oil refineries in Russia.

                  Somewhere, I read that the one that was struck (Ryazan) is responsible for 13% of Russias refining capacity.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 13 Mar 2024, 14:00 last edited by Renauda
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                    Putin is feeling cocky:

                    "The fact is that the militaries of Western countries have been present in Ukraine for a long time," the Russian leader claimed, referring to what the Kremlin says are mercenaries.

                    "But if we talk about official military contingents of foreign countries, I am sure it will not change the situation on the battlefield," he added.

                    So now he doesn’t care if NATO members deploy troops to Ukraine, so long as no US troops are among that number?

                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/03/13/in-quotes-putin-grants-wide-ranging-interview-to-state-media-ahead-of-election-a84443

                    Elbows up!

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 13 Mar 2024, 23:10 last edited by
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                      Election comedy in occupied Ukraine:

                      "Pro-Russian locals visit households with ballot boxes, accompanied by armed military men. If they knock and no one opens, they move on to the next house. They don't break into houses, but they do visit," the local resident said.

                      They added: "This is ridiculous. What kind of election is it when there are two locals - one holding a list of voters and the other a ballot box - and a military man with a machine gun? This isn't democracy. It's a comedy show."

                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68535301

                      Elbows up!

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                        George K
                        wrote on 15 Mar 2024, 11:46 last edited by
                        #2102

                        Another refinery goes boom.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 15 Mar 2024, 15:10 last edited by
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                          Ukraine targets refineries, Russia continues to terrorize and target civilians:

                          The tactic of firing a second missile at the same location, aiming to hit rescuers, is known in military terms as a "double tap." Such strikes often hit civilians.

                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-russia-double-tap-missile-strike-odesa-1.7144818

                          Elbows up!

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                            George K
                            wrote on 16 Mar 2024, 12:08 last edited by
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                            Another refinery - 1000 km from Ukraine.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 16 Mar 2024, 12:38 last edited by
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                              Nice.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                George K
                                wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 09:41 last edited by
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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 11:38 last edited by
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                                  The Russians are jamming GPS for commercial flights.

                                  Something bad is going to happen.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 11:39 last edited by
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                                    Another refinery yesterday.

                                    IMG_0259.JPG

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      17 Mar 2024, 11:38

                                      The Russians are jamming GPS for commercial flights.

                                      Something bad is going to happen.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 15:05 last edited by Renauda
                                      #2109

                                      @George-K

                                      The Russians are jamming GPS for commercial flights.

                                      This has been going on for some time already. It’s made headlines the past couple of days because the aircraft GPS carrying the UK Minister of Defence to Poland was jammed last week.

                                      https://breakingdefense.com/2024/01/as-baltics-see-spike-in-gps-jamming-nato-must-respond/?amp=1

                                      UK Ministerial trip cancelled:

                                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68589866

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 20 Mar 2024, 00:51 last edited by
                                        #2110

                                        https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/ukraines-survival-in-danger-pentagon-chief-warns

                                        U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on Tuesday warned that Ukraine's survival was in danger and sought to convince allies that the United States was committed to Kyiv, even as Washington has essentially run out of money to continue arming Ukrainian forces.

                                        Republican House of Representatives Speaker Mike Johnson has so far refused to call a vote on a bill that would provide $60 billion more for Ukraine and the White House has been scrambling to find ways to send assistance to Kyiv, which has been battling Russian forces for more than two years.

                                        Why is Rep. Johnson refusing to hold the vote?

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                                          Wim
                                          wrote on 20 Mar 2024, 12:43 last edited by
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                                          Aeroflot in trouble

                                          https://www.kyivpost.com/post/29805

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