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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @taiwan_girl

    Not the least bit worrying. Viktor Orban is a paragon of liberal democracy. For one, unlike Lukashenko or Putin, he does not beat up, incarcerate or murder his opponents. He merely changes rules and election laws so he can stay in power. The much heralded President Presumptive of America, the Duke of Mar-A-Lago, might gain valuable insight from this visit.

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    Wim
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    #2090

    @Renauda Always optimistic you, eh? 😁

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      Renauda
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      #2091

      Perennially optimistic.

      Elbows up!

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        taiwan_girl
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        #2092

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/11/trump-ukraine-war-viktor-orban

        Donald Trump “will not give a penny” to Ukraine if he is re-elected US president, the far-right Hungarian prime minister, Viktor Orbán, said after a controversial meeting with Trump in Florida.

        “He will not give a penny in the Ukraine-Russia war,” Orbán told state media in Hungary on Sunday. “Therefore, the war will end, because it is obvious that Ukraine can not stand on its own feet.”

        and

        Calling Trump “a man of peace”, Orbán said: “If the Americans don’t give money and weapons, along with the Europeans, the war is over. And if the Americans don’t give money, the Europeans alone can’t finance this war. And then the war is over.” (This would likely mean Ukraine losing the war to Russia.)

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          Mik
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          #2093

          Somehow that’s not the wise statesmanship I think we need.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • W Offline
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            Wim
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            #2094

            Fights within Russia

            https://www.kyivpost.com/post/29369

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
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              #2095

              From little acorns...

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/11/trump-ukraine-war-viktor-orban

                Donald Trump “will not give a penny” to Ukraine if he is re-elected US president, the far-right Hungarian prime minister, Viktor Orbán, said after a controversial meeting with Trump in Florida.

                “He will not give a penny in the Ukraine-Russia war,” Orbán told state media in Hungary on Sunday. “Therefore, the war will end, because it is obvious that Ukraine can not stand on its own feet.”

                and

                Calling Trump “a man of peace”, Orbán said: “If the Americans don’t give money and weapons, along with the Europeans, the war is over. And if the Americans don’t give money, the Europeans alone can’t finance this war. And then the war is over.” (This would likely mean Ukraine losing the war to Russia.)

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                Renauda
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                #2096

                @taiwan_girl

                Calling Trump “a man of peace”, Orbán said…

                Funny, Nikki Haley and others of notable rank and station, who know Trump much better than Orban will ever hope, refer to him as a “man of chaos”.

                Soon Orban, the court jester he is, will be referring to the Duke of Mar-a-Lago, my Liege.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  @taiwan_girl

                  Calling Trump “a man of peace”, Orbán said…

                  Funny, Nikki Haley and others of notable rank and station, who know Trump much better than Orban will ever hope, refer to him as a “man of chaos”.

                  Soon Orban, the court jester he is, will be referring to the Duke of Mar-a-Lago, my Liege.

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                  Jolly
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                  #2097

                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  @taiwan_girl

                  Calling Trump “a man of peace”, Orbán said…

                  Funny, Nikki Haley and others of notable rank and station, who know Trump much better than Orban will ever hope, refer to him as a “man of chaos”.

                  Soon Orban, the court jester he is, will be referring to the Duke of Mar-a-Lago, my Liege.

                  Nah, Mr. President will do.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Renauda
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                    #2098

                    No, in Viktor Orban’s world, the title Mr. President is already reserved for Tsar Putin.

                    Elbows up!

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                      George K
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                      #2099

                      Ukrainians hitting oil refineries in Russia.

                      Somewhere, I read that the one that was struck (Ryazan) is responsible for 13% of Russias refining capacity.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #2100

                        Putin is feeling cocky:

                        "The fact is that the militaries of Western countries have been present in Ukraine for a long time," the Russian leader claimed, referring to what the Kremlin says are mercenaries.

                        "But if we talk about official military contingents of foreign countries, I am sure it will not change the situation on the battlefield," he added.

                        So now he doesn’t care if NATO members deploy troops to Ukraine, so long as no US troops are among that number?

                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/03/13/in-quotes-putin-grants-wide-ranging-interview-to-state-media-ahead-of-election-a84443

                        Elbows up!

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                          Renauda
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                          #2101

                          Election comedy in occupied Ukraine:

                          "Pro-Russian locals visit households with ballot boxes, accompanied by armed military men. If they knock and no one opens, they move on to the next house. They don't break into houses, but they do visit," the local resident said.

                          They added: "This is ridiculous. What kind of election is it when there are two locals - one holding a list of voters and the other a ballot box - and a military man with a machine gun? This isn't democracy. It's a comedy show."

                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68535301

                          Elbows up!

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                            George K
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                            Another refinery goes boom.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Renauda
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                              #2103

                              Ukraine targets refineries, Russia continues to terrorize and target civilians:

                              The tactic of firing a second missile at the same location, aiming to hit rescuers, is known in military terms as a "double tap." Such strikes often hit civilians.

                              https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-russia-double-tap-missile-strike-odesa-1.7144818

                              Elbows up!

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2104

                                Another refinery - 1000 km from Ukraine.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  #2105

                                  Nice.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
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                                      #2107

                                      The Russians are jamming GPS for commercial flights.

                                      Something bad is going to happen.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2108

                                        Another refinery yesterday.

                                        IMG_0259.JPG

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          The Russians are jamming GPS for commercial flights.

                                          Something bad is going to happen.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                          #2109

                                          @George-K

                                          The Russians are jamming GPS for commercial flights.

                                          This has been going on for some time already. It’s made headlines the past couple of days because the aircraft GPS carrying the UK Minister of Defence to Poland was jammed last week.

                                          https://breakingdefense.com/2024/01/as-baltics-see-spike-in-gps-jamming-nato-must-respond/?amp=1

                                          UK Ministerial trip cancelled:

                                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68589866

                                          Elbows up!

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