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  • George KG George K

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
    #2072

    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Russian blogger says Russia shot down hits own plane!

    Russian forces have accidentally shot down their own £275 million spy plane over occupied Ukraine, pro-Kremlin military bloggers have said.

    Vladimir Romanov said that the Beriev A-50 Soviet-built plane crashed near the Sea of Azov after it was hit by a missile fired from Mariupol, the Ukrainian city that Russian forces captured in 2022.

    “The enemy has nothing to do with it again. The launches were from the Mariupol area,” he told his 140,000 followers. “After being hit by an air defence missile (not fired by the enemy), the A-50 broke into two parts.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/24/russia-shoots-down-own-spy-plane-pro-kremlin-bloggers-claim/

    Link to video

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Russian blogger says Russia shot down hits own plane!

      Russian forces have accidentally shot down their own £275 million spy plane over occupied Ukraine, pro-Kremlin military bloggers have said.

      Vladimir Romanov said that the Beriev A-50 Soviet-built plane crashed near the Sea of Azov after it was hit by a missile fired from Mariupol, the Ukrainian city that Russian forces captured in 2022.

      “The enemy has nothing to do with it again. The launches were from the Mariupol area,” he told his 140,000 followers. “After being hit by an air defence missile (not fired by the enemy), the A-50 broke into two parts.”

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/24/russia-shoots-down-own-spy-plane-pro-kremlin-bloggers-claim/

      Link to video

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by
      #2073

      @taiwan_girl

      Most embarrassing.

      My congratulations to the Duty Officer and battery that fired that rocket. Mentions in despatches and field promotions for all.

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        #2074

        I see a Siberian future in their crystal balls.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #2075

          German Armed Forces has a communications security problem. Sloppiness. Seems that the Kremlin has its own cunning plans to take advantage of catching them with their trousers down:

          Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday that the discussion betrayed the "cunning plans" of the German armed forces, which he said had committed "a blatant self-exposure".

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68457087

          Elbows up!

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #2076

            That’s a lot of how we got ahead of them in WWII. One might think they’d have learned.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              George K
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              #2077

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/air-force-ukraine-downs-another-russian-su-34-jet/ar-BB1jeo8h

              “The East Air Command confirms the downing of a Su-34 fighter-bomber. Unfortunately, it was only one,” the Air Forcewrote on Telegram.

              The destruction of the jet is the latest in a recent uptick of downed Russian planes. This list includes 12 Su-34 fighter bombers, two Su-35 fighter jets, and a rare A-50 military spy plane. Another A-50 aircraft was downed a month prior.

              Three Su-34s were reportedly destroyed in a single day on Feb. 29 over eastern Ukraine. Another Su-34 plane was downed on the morning of March 1, the Air Force said.

              The rapid destruction of aircraft comes amid Russia's attempts to advance on the battlefield after the withdrawal of Ukrainian troopsfrom Avdiivka and three villages in Donetsk Oblast, in addition to Ukraine's widely mentioned ammunition shortage.

              Yuriy Ihnat, the Air Force's spokesman, has said that Ukraine now has "tools" to destroy planes "at quite long distances," explaining the recent uptick.

              Russia's total losses during the all-out war amount to about 670 aircraft — 345 planes and 325 helicopters, according to Ukraine's General Staff.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #2078

                The Black Sea Submarine Fleet just got bigger.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #2079

                  Poland’s Foreign Minister, Radislaw Sikorski, administers terse rebuttal and “Come to Jesus” moment directly to the Russian Ambassador to the UN at the Security Council Plenum ten days ago:

                  Video:

                  https://news.sky.com/video/polish-foreign-minister-corrects-the-record-for-russia-in-un-security-council-meeting-13080530

                  Transcript:

                  https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/minister-radoslaw-sikorski-deliveres-speech-at-the-un-security-council

                  Doubt if they showed that on RT or any TV news report in Russia. Wouldn’t hurt if a few politicians and interest groups in the West watched or paid close attention as well.

                  Elbows up!

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                    George K
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                    #2080

                    Hamas insists permanent ceasefire needed for hostage deal

                    Hamas publicly insisted Tuesday that a permanent ceasefire must be in place before any deal is implemented for the release of the remaining 134 hostages held in Gaza, in a statement that seemed to run counter to optimism from Washington that an agreement was possible before the start of the holy month of Ramadan.

                    “In the past two days, the movement presented its position on the proposal put forward by the brotherly Qatari and Egyptian mediators,” senior Hamas official Osama Hamdan said in Beirut.

                    He spoke as ceasefire talks mediated by both Egypt and Qatar continued in Cairo with no sign of a breakthrough.

                    “We reaffirmed our conditions for a ceasefire: a full pullout from the Strip and the return of the displaced [Palestinians] from areas they left, in particular in the north,” he said.

                    Wasn't there a cease-fire in place on October 6?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                      #2081

                      @George-K

                      There might have been but Putin broke it?

                      George, you gotta work with me on this one. You may have posted this one in the wrong theatre of current wars.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @George-K

                        There might have been but Putin broke it?

                        George, you gotta work with me on this one. You may have posted this one in the wrong theatre of current wars.

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                        George K
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                        #2082

                        @Renauda Whoopsie....

                        I'm just channeling my inner Joe Biden: confusing Gaza with Ukraine.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                          #2083

                          @George-K

                          Нет проблем, бывает говно.

                          Elbows up!

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #2084

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Wim
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2085

                              Putin and Belgium....
                              What a joke.
                              https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/03/07/putin-falsely-claims-belgium-exists-largely-thanks-to-russia/

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2086

                                Actually a malicious joke.

                                He’s blaming the Poles again. After all, Poland did start WWII.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2087

                                  The below could go in many different forum threads but here is as good a place as any.

                                  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/07/viktor-orban-to-visit-donald-trump-in-florida-hungary

                                  The longtime Hungarian prime minister, who has faced repeated criticism from the US government over democratic backsliding and his friendly relationship with the Kremlin, will be arriving in the US this week without an invitation from the White House.

                                  In an almost unheard-of move for a Nato country’s leader, he is not expected to meet anyone from the Biden administration.

                                  Instead, he is scheduled to speak on Thursday on a panel with the head of a conservative thinktank, the Heritage Foundation, before meeting Trump in Florida on Friday.

                                  and

                                  “Both Orbán and Putin’s communications focus on ‘peace’ negotiations, which would undoubtedly benefit the Russians,” Buda said, adding that “one cannot be wrong to assume that Orbán is ultimately lobbying the US on foreign policy in favour of Russia”.

                                  The Hungarian leader has publicly expressed his hope for a foreign policy shift in Washington and Brussels.

                                  and

                                  The Hungarian government – which maintains relationships with Moscow and Beijing, still employs former communist security officials and is known for its tendency to skew business competition at home – does not fit in well with traditional American conservatives. The late Republican John McCain described Orbán in 2014 as “a neo-fascist dictator”.

                                  Nevertheless, Orbán’s team have spent a significant amount of time and money on cultivating relationships with a different strand of US conservatives.

                                  The Hungarian government has in recent years hired US consultancies with conservative links to help improve its image.

                                  The Hungarian embassy in Washington has also been directly involved in the outreach: for example, it hosted the former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy twice in the past year.

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                                    #2088

                                    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2912366/trump-welcomes-hungarian-prime-minister-viktor-orban-to-mar-a-lago-resort/

                                    A bit worrying.

                                    Trump’s presidential campaign claimed the pair met to discuss a “wide range of issues affecting Hungary and the United States, including the paramount importance of strong and secure borders to protect the sovereignty of each nation.”

                                    “He’s a non-controversial figure because he says, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it. Right?” Trump said of the Hungarian prime minister in a video on Instagram. “He’s the boss.”

                                    and

                                    Orban has faced backlash over his friendship with Russian President Vladimir Putin, his resistance to sending aid to Ukraine and expanding NATO, and even allegations of trying to weaken the judiciary system in Hungary.

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2912366/trump-welcomes-hungarian-prime-minister-viktor-orban-to-mar-a-lago-resort/

                                      A bit worrying.

                                      Trump’s presidential campaign claimed the pair met to discuss a “wide range of issues affecting Hungary and the United States, including the paramount importance of strong and secure borders to protect the sovereignty of each nation.”

                                      “He’s a non-controversial figure because he says, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it. Right?” Trump said of the Hungarian prime minister in a video on Instagram. “He’s the boss.”

                                      and

                                      Orban has faced backlash over his friendship with Russian President Vladimir Putin, his resistance to sending aid to Ukraine and expanding NATO, and even allegations of trying to weaken the judiciary system in Hungary.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #2089

                                      @taiwan_girl

                                      Not the least bit worrying. Viktor Orban is a paragon of liberal democracy. For one, unlike Lukashenko or Putin, he does not beat up, incarcerate or murder his opponents. He merely changes rules and election laws so he can stay in power. The much heralded President Presumptive of America, the Duke of Mar-A-Lago, might gain valuable insight from this visit.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @taiwan_girl

                                        Not the least bit worrying. Viktor Orban is a paragon of liberal democracy. For one, unlike Lukashenko or Putin, he does not beat up, incarcerate or murder his opponents. He merely changes rules and election laws so he can stay in power. The much heralded President Presumptive of America, the Duke of Mar-A-Lago, might gain valuable insight from this visit.

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                                        Wim
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2090

                                        @Renauda Always optimistic you, eh? 😁

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2091

                                          Perennially optimistic.

                                          Elbows up!

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