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  • M Away
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    Mik
    wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 12:33 last edited by
    #1956

    It'll buff right out.

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    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • M Mik
      8 Nov 2023, 12:33

      It'll buff right out.

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      George K
      wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 12:54 last edited by
      #1957

      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

      It'll buff right out.

      At least one report says it has to be scrapped.

      Pity.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 13 Nov 2023, 13:02 last edited by
        #1958

        Nice piloting

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 17 Nov 2023, 12:51 last edited by
          #1959

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Wim
            wrote on 22 Nov 2023, 21:27 last edited by
            #1960

            Putin talking to G20 summit:
            https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-we-must-think-how-stop-the-tragedy-ukraine-2023-11-22/

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            • W Wim
              22 Nov 2023, 21:27

              Putin talking to G20 summit:
              https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-we-must-think-how-stop-the-tragedy-ukraine-2023-11-22/

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              George K
              wrote on 22 Nov 2023, 21:48 last edited by
              #1961

              @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

              https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-we-must-think-how-stop-the-tragedy-ukraine-2023-11-22/

              The absolute balls....

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                22 Nov 2023, 21:48

                @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-we-must-think-how-stop-the-tragedy-ukraine-2023-11-22/

                The absolute balls....

                W Do not disturb
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                Wim
                wrote on 22 Nov 2023, 22:08 last edited by
                #1962

                @George-K Nihil Putinum mihi alienum est

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                • G George K
                  22 Nov 2023, 21:48

                  @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-we-must-think-how-stop-the-tragedy-ukraine-2023-11-22/

                  The absolute balls....

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 22 Nov 2023, 22:13 last edited by Renauda
                  #1963

                  @George-K

                  The absolute balls....

                  Наглый мудак такой.

                  Elbows up!

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                    George K
                    wrote on 26 Nov 2023, 22:49 last edited by
                    #1964

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 27 Nov 2023, 12:13 last edited by
                      #1965

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 15:45 last edited by
                        #1966

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 17:19 last edited by
                          #1967

                          Looks warmish.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 17:32 last edited by
                            #1968

                            T. E. Lawrence smiled:

                            https://www.kyivpost.com/post/24856

                            Elbows up!

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                            • R Renauda
                              30 Nov 2023, 17:32

                              T. E. Lawrence smiled:

                              https://www.kyivpost.com/post/24856

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                              George K
                              wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 17:35 last edited by
                              #1969

                              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              T. E. Lawrence smiled:

                              LOL

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 18:02 last edited by
                                #1970

                                Speaking of Lawrence, here’s Lawrence Freedman’s most recent Situation Report on the war in Ukraine:

                                https://samf.substack.com/p/what-should-ukraine-do-next?utm_medium=web

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 19:33 last edited by Mik
                                  #1971

                                  Good article, if not cheery. I think the major point is decisive victory is unlikely for either nation, but Russia's economy is so much smaller than the West's. The question is Ukrainian manpower. Weapons are important but you have to preserve the people to operate them.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • M Mik
                                    30 Nov 2023, 19:33

                                    Good article, if not cheery. I think the major point is decisive victory is unlikely for either nation, but Russia's economy is so much smaller than the West's. The question is Ukrainian manpower. Weapons are important but you have to preserve the people to operate them.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 19:40 last edited by
                                    #1972

                                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    The question is Ukrainian manpower

                                    Indeed. I've seen reports that Russia has sustained >300K casualties. Considering the size of their military, that's not crippling (except, perhaps, in public opinion).

                                    Ukraine can't bear that kind of loss, and Russia will continue to throw troops into the grinder.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • M Mik
                                      30 Nov 2023, 19:33

                                      Good article, if not cheery. I think the major point is decisive victory is unlikely for either nation, but Russia's economy is so much smaller than the West's. The question is Ukrainian manpower. Weapons are important but you have to preserve the people to operate them.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 20:23 last edited by
                                      #1973

                                      @Mik

                                      This morning in a Zoom scrum between friends and former colleagues, we parsed through Freedman’s report. One of our number with considerably more experience in these matters than I, expressed his concern that he senses a growing risk of fraying in team Kyiv as to what and how to adjust strategy while at the same time maintaining the necessary messaging to manage expectations on multiple fronts and levels.

                                      I suspect his concern is well founded.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 21:20 last edited by
                                        #1974

                                        It's a lot to maintain that fighting spirit as the Russian onslaught, incompetent though it may be, continues to wear them down.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 21:22 last edited by
                                          #1975

                                          Speaking of Russian competence...

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-troops-are-being-blown-up-by-their-own-minefields-because-their-leaders-won-t-say-where-they-are-ukraine-says/ar-AA1kMvEt?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d3301936c16f4c89be763761bf1b15fa&ei=115

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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