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    George K
    wrote on 29 Mar 2022, 15:11 last edited by
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    Updated numbers as of today:

    Amazing: The Russians are losing 7 tanks a day since the 16th. About 10/day since the invasion. Of the lost tanks, about half were captured (139) or abandoned (42).

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:12 last edited by
      #184

      Anybody else have a small little nugget of doubt about this Russian withdrawal from Kyiv? A thought that maybe they aren’t withdrawing so much as getting out of the way?

      The Brad

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        Mik
        wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:21 last edited by
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        I cast doubt on everything they say they are doing.

        I have said many times here, there are two types of people. The first type tells you it's raining and you think , "oh, it's raining".

        The other type tells you the same thing and you think "now why would they want it to be raining?".

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          30 Mar 2022, 12:21

          I cast doubt on everything they say they are doing.

          I have said many times here, there are two types of people. The first type tells you it's raining and you think , "oh, it's raining".

          The other type tells you the same thing and you think "now why would they want it to be raining?".

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          George K
          wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:31 last edited by George K
          #186

          @Mik

          Samuel Ramani tweets:

          (good source for news - https://twitter.com/samramani2)

          Zelensky gets it right:

          “Yes, we can call positive the signals we hear from the negotiating platform. But these signals do not silence the explosion of Russian shells.”

          Russia’s “withdrawal” from Kyiv is looking a lot like Anwar Sadat’s expulsion of Soviet advisors in 1972. An old school Kremlin feint.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 13:21 last edited by
            #187

            https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-appears-begun-shelling-russian-005724169.html

            The Ukrainian military has begun to take the fight to Russian territory, a new development in what has been a primarily defensive war for the country.

            Russian authorities were forced to place two villages under emergency orders and evacuate some citizens due to Ukrainian shelling in the area, according to reports from multiple Russian media outlets.

            RIA Novosti, a Russian government-controlled publication, reported Tuesday that an explosion near the village of Zhuravlyovka injured four people. The outlet reported that the source of the explosion was an attack that originated from within Ukraine.

            Interfax, another Kremlin-friendly publication, reported that Zhuravlyovka and the nearby town of Niekhoteyevka were placed under emergency orders, and roughly 180 people were evacuated to the city of Belgorod as the result of an explosion at an ammunition depot.

            Interfax did not pin blame for the explosion on Ukraine, but it did note that authorities believe it was not an accident.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 21:04 last edited by George K
              #188

              War crime?

              https://www.foxnews.com/world/red-cross-shelled-mariupol

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 21:05 last edited by
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                Bastards.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  George K
                  wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 23:49 last edited by
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 23:54 last edited by
                    #191

                    Lol, took me a minute…

                    The Brad

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                      30 Mar 2022, 23:54

                      Lol, took me a minute…

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                      George K
                      wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 23:59 last edited by
                      #192

                      @LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Lol, took me a minute…

                      It's like those "Amtrak train plows into SUV" headlines.

                      (didn't mention Waukesha, didja notice?)

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 31 Mar 2022, 16:51 last edited by
                        #193

                        Interesting

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 31 Mar 2022, 17:02 last edited by
                          #194

                          So it is true - he's trying to fight WWII again. Wow.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            George K
                            wrote on 31 Mar 2022, 17:21 last edited by
                            #195

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 31 Mar 2022, 17:38 last edited by Copper
                              #196

                              That made me look

                              That kind of military plane normally wouldn't be seen, because they would not have a transponder turned on. If the transponder is on, they want to be seen.

                              I spotted this guy, just now

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                31 Mar 2022, 16:51

                                Interesting

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 31 Mar 2022, 18:27 last edited by
                                #197

                                @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Interesting

                                My gallows humor keeps imagining this scenario where Russia is eventually beaten back, Putin removed from power, and five years later Ukraine attacks Poland bearing the Swastika and we find out Zelensky is really Adolph Hitler’s great-grandson…

                                The Brad

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 12:13 last edited by
                                  #198

                                  Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    1 Apr 2022, 12:13

                                    Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 12:24 last edited by
                                    #199

                                    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

                                    That actually would be huge news, and is what I wondered about last week but was quickly told that it wouldn’t happen, Ukraine would only fight a defensive war and not attack targets in Russia itself.

                                    The Brad

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 12:27 last edited by Mik 4 Jan 2022, 12:27
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                                      I believe the discussion revolved around Ukraine invading Russian territory. There would be no strategic advantage. Strikes against specific high value targets are a very different matter.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        1 Apr 2022, 12:24

                                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

                                        That actually would be huge news, and is what I wondered about last week but was quickly told that it wouldn’t happen, Ukraine would only fight a defensive war and not attack targets in Russia itself.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 12:28 last edited by
                                        #201

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        That actually would be huge news, and is what I wondered about last week but was quickly told that it wouldn’t happen, Ukraine would only fight a defensive war and not attack targets in Russia itself.

                                        True. I can see them justifying it by saying that the oil depot was used to provide supplies for the Russian invaders. It might be a weak response, but nothing like attacking a city in Russia.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          1 Apr 2022, 12:27

                                          I believe the discussion revolved around Ukraine invading Russian territory. There would be no strategic advantage. Strikes against specific high value targets are a very different matter.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 13:24 last edited by
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                                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          I believe the discussion revolved around Ukraine invading Russian territory. There would be no strategic advantage. Strikes against specific high value targets are a very different matter.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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