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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #182

    As I recall they gave similar security guarantees so Ukraine would give up the nukes. It’s great if it stops hostilities but Russia has no intention to honor any such agreement.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #183

      Updated numbers as of today:

      Amazing: The Russians are losing 7 tanks a day since the 16th. About 10/day since the invasion. Of the lost tanks, about half were captured (139) or abandoned (42).

      Screen Shot 2022-03-29 at 10.08.10 AM.png

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #184

        Anybody else have a small little nugget of doubt about this Russian withdrawal from Kyiv? A thought that maybe they aren’t withdrawing so much as getting out of the way?

        The Brad

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        • MikM Offline
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          #185

          I cast doubt on everything they say they are doing.

          I have said many times here, there are two types of people. The first type tells you it's raining and you think , "oh, it's raining".

          The other type tells you the same thing and you think "now why would they want it to be raining?".

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            I cast doubt on everything they say they are doing.

            I have said many times here, there are two types of people. The first type tells you it's raining and you think , "oh, it's raining".

            The other type tells you the same thing and you think "now why would they want it to be raining?".

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by George K
            #186

            @Mik

            Samuel Ramani tweets:

            (good source for news - https://twitter.com/samramani2)

            Zelensky gets it right:

            “Yes, we can call positive the signals we hear from the negotiating platform. But these signals do not silence the explosion of Russian shells.”

            Russia’s “withdrawal” from Kyiv is looking a lot like Anwar Sadat’s expulsion of Soviet advisors in 1972. An old school Kremlin feint.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #187

              https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-appears-begun-shelling-russian-005724169.html

              The Ukrainian military has begun to take the fight to Russian territory, a new development in what has been a primarily defensive war for the country.

              Russian authorities were forced to place two villages under emergency orders and evacuate some citizens due to Ukrainian shelling in the area, according to reports from multiple Russian media outlets.

              RIA Novosti, a Russian government-controlled publication, reported Tuesday that an explosion near the village of Zhuravlyovka injured four people. The outlet reported that the source of the explosion was an attack that originated from within Ukraine.

              Interfax, another Kremlin-friendly publication, reported that Zhuravlyovka and the nearby town of Niekhoteyevka were placed under emergency orders, and roughly 180 people were evacuated to the city of Belgorod as the result of an explosion at an ammunition depot.

              Interfax did not pin blame for the explosion on Ukraine, but it did note that authorities believe it was not an accident.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by George K
                #188

                War crime?

                https://www.foxnews.com/world/red-cross-shelled-mariupol

                Screen Shot 2022-03-30 at 4.04.37 PM copy.jpg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #189

                  Bastards.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #190

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #191

                      Lol, took me a minute…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Lol, took me a minute…

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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #192

                        @LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Lol, took me a minute…

                        It's like those "Amtrak train plows into SUV" headlines.

                        (didn't mention Waukesha, didja notice?)

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #193

                          Interesting

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • MikM Offline
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                            #194

                            So it is true - he's trying to fight WWII again. Wow.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #195

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Copper
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                                #196

                                That made me look

                                That kind of military plane normally wouldn't be seen, because they would not have a transponder turned on. If the transponder is on, they want to be seen.

                                I spotted this guy, just now

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Interesting

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #197

                                  @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Interesting

                                  My gallows humor keeps imagining this scenario where Russia is eventually beaten back, Putin removed from power, and five years later Ukraine attacks Poland bearing the Swastika and we find out Zelensky is really Adolph Hitler’s great-grandson…

                                  The Brad

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #198

                                    Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #199

                                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

                                      That actually would be huge news, and is what I wondered about last week but was quickly told that it wouldn’t happen, Ukraine would only fight a defensive war and not attack targets in Russia itself.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        wrote on last edited by Mik
                                        #200

                                        I believe the discussion revolved around Ukraine invading Russian territory. There would be no strategic advantage. Strikes against specific high value targets are a very different matter.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

                                          That actually would be huge news, and is what I wondered about last week but was quickly told that it wouldn’t happen, Ukraine would only fight a defensive war and not attack targets in Russia itself.

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #201

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          That actually would be huge news, and is what I wondered about last week but was quickly told that it wouldn’t happen, Ukraine would only fight a defensive war and not attack targets in Russia itself.

                                          True. I can see them justifying it by saying that the oil depot was used to provide supplies for the Russian invaders. It might be a weak response, but nothing like attacking a city in Russia.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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