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  • HoraceH Horace

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Horace

    Did it cross your mind that just may be that they followed the money?

    I doubt financial forensics were involved. More likely cultural pressure.

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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #1874

    @Horace

    Of course. How could it be otherwise?

    Elbows up!

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      George K
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      #1875

      LOL

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        LOL

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        Renauda
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        #1876

        @George-K

        Yes, your source although questionable - https://oko.press/visegrad24-anonomous-account-mystery-revealed - is reporting accurately. PepsiCo is indeed on Kyiv’s naughty list:

        https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/09/01/ukraines-anti-graft-agency-recognizes-pepsico-mars-intl-sponsors-of-war/

        The same credibility however cannot be said for the Horace’s source, the greyzone.com, as this search link indicates:

        https://www.google.com/search?q=thegrayzone.com&sca_esv=561932315&source=hp&ei=SvHxZP-KFPHAkPIP1qGWmAE&oq=thegrayzone.com&gs_lp=EhFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocCIPdGhlZ3JheXpvbmUuY29tSKWrAVC4CViqowFwB3gAkAEAmAGvAaAB6hWqAQQwLjIxuAEDyAEA-AEBqAIPwgIKEAAYAxiPARjqAsICChAuGAMYjwEY6gLCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICERAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGMcBGNEDwgILEAAYigUYsQMYgwHCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgIFEC4YgATCAggQABiABBixA8ICDRAuGIAEGMcBGNEDGArCAgQQABgDwgIHEAAYgAQYCsICDRAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGArCAgUQABiABMICBxAuGIAEGArCAg0QLhiABBjHARivARgKwgIQEC4YgAQYxwMYxwEYrwEYCsICDRAuGIMBGLEDGIAEGArCAgoQABiABBjHAxgKwgIFEAAYogTCAhAQABiABBixAxiDARjHAxgK&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp

        Elbows up!

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #1877

          Just like me to side with a far-left news source.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #1878

            Well crap. We just bought some Ethel M chocolates.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #1879

              Silver bullets...

              https://www.reuters.com/world/us-send-its-first-depleted-uranium-rounds-ukraine-sources-2023-09-01/

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #1880

                Good piece on the US and NATO. This alone would cause me to not vote for Trump or DeSantis.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-u-s-and-europe-are-splitting-over-ukraine/ar-AA1g8upQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=be1dac286cf4479d88610af0021b94d1&ei=54

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • George KG George K

                  How Russian Soldiers Ran a "Cleansing" Operation in Bucha

                  The first man arrived at 7:27 a.m. Russian soldiers covered his head and marched him up the driveway toward a nondescript office building.

                  Two minutes later, a pleading, gagged voice pierced the morning stillness. Then the merciless reply: “Talk! Talk, f--ing mother-f--er!”

                  The women and children came later, gripping hastily packed bags, their pet dogs in tow.

                  It was a cold, gray morning, March 4 in Bucha, Ukraine. Crows cawed. By nightfall, at least nine men would walk to their deaths at 144 Yablunska street, a building complex that Russians turned into a headquarters and the nerve center of violence that would shock the world.

                  In this image from March 4, 2022, surveillance video provided by the Ukrainian government, Russian troops lead nine men at gunpoint to their headquarters on Yablunska Street in Bucha, where they would be tortured and executed.

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                  The men were picked up as part of what Russian soldiers called “zachistka” – cleansing. They hunted people on lists prepared by their intelligence services and went door to door to identify and neutralize potential threats.

                  Later, when all the bodies were found strewn along the streets and packed in hasty graves, it would be easy to think the carnage was random. Residents asking how this happened would be told to make their peace, because some questions just don’t have answers.

                  Yet there was a method to the violence.

                  What happened that day in Bucha was what Russian soldiers on intercepted phone conversations called “zachistka” — cleansing. The Russians hunted people on lists prepared by their intelligence services and went door to door to identify potential threats. Those who didn’t pass this filtration, including volunteer fighters and civilians suspected of assisting Ukrainian troops, were tortured and executed, surveillance video, audio intercepts and interviews show.

                  More here:

                  https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interactive/ap-russia-war-crimes-ukraine/

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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1881

                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  How Russian Soldiers Ran a "Cleansing" Operation in Bucha

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1882

                    And meanwhile, in Putin's hometown, Leningrad St. Petersburg.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1883

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        #1884

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/musk-stopped-ukraine-attack-russian-fleet-starlink-rcna104019

                        New biography about Elon Musk claims that:

                        Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his Starlink satellite network over Russian-occupied Crimea last year in order to prevent a Ukrainian drone attack on Russia’s naval fleet.

                        The claim was immediately met with criticism from Kyiv.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/musk-stopped-ukraine-attack-russian-fleet-starlink-rcna104019

                          New biography about Elon Musk claims that:

                          Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his Starlink satellite network over Russian-occupied Crimea last year in order to prevent a Ukrainian drone attack on Russia’s naval fleet.

                          The claim was immediately met with criticism from Kyiv.

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1885

                          @Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/musk-stopped-ukraine-attack-russian-fleet-starlink-rcna104019

                          New biography about Elon Musk claims that:

                          Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his Starlink satellite network over Russian-occupied Crimea last year in order to prevent a Ukrainian drone attack on Russia’s naval fleet.

                          The claim was immediately met with criticism from Kyiv.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1886

                            Last night:

                            And in Sevastopol:

                            image.jpeg

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1887

                              image.jpeg

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1888

                                https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/15/7419986/

                                A Ukrainian uncrewed surface vessel (USV) hit a Samum-class missile carrier hovercraft on Thursday, 14 September.
                                Source: Ukrainska Pravda’s sources in the Security Service of Ukraine (SSU)

                                Details: The sources said the SSU's SeaBaby USV hit the Samum near the entry to Sevastopol Bay.

                                The USV hit the rear right side of the vessel, causing significant damage, which resulted in the ship losing power.

                                The sources stated that the Russians had to tow the Samum away for repairs "with a significant tilt at the stern and listing to starboard".

                                The SSU used an experimental model of USV capable of operating in a storm, using high waves for cover. The waves were 1.5-2 metres high at the time of the special operation.

                                3047157-clipboard01.jpeg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
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                                  #1889

                                  Another careless smoker:

                                  In a clip shared online, massive plumes of grey smoke can be seen filling the sky in the Samara region of Russia.

                                  They reportedly came from a major fire that raged through a “huge amount of equipment, including military equipment” at a bearings factory.

                                  According to local Telegram channels, the blaze engulfed an area of 100 square meters and was triggered after oil caught fire.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1890

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1891

                                      Some of these I wonder are just ordinary occurrences.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Some of these I wonder are just ordinary occurrences.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1892

                                        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Some of these I wonder are just ordinary occurrences.

                                        Could be. How many shopping centers in a major city have burned in the US over the last year?

                                        And the other one was a strategic site - ball bearings.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1893

                                          Sanctions are biting.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-running-out-of-pretty-much-everything-as-sanctions-bite/ar-AA1gNzAP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a966218bbc6940539575c845ba63a754&ei=22

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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