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  • George KG George K

    How Russian Soldiers Ran a "Cleansing" Operation in Bucha

    The first man arrived at 7:27 a.m. Russian soldiers covered his head and marched him up the driveway toward a nondescript office building.

    Two minutes later, a pleading, gagged voice pierced the morning stillness. Then the merciless reply: “Talk! Talk, f--ing mother-f--er!”

    The women and children came later, gripping hastily packed bags, their pet dogs in tow.

    It was a cold, gray morning, March 4 in Bucha, Ukraine. Crows cawed. By nightfall, at least nine men would walk to their deaths at 144 Yablunska street, a building complex that Russians turned into a headquarters and the nerve center of violence that would shock the world.

    In this image from March 4, 2022, surveillance video provided by the Ukrainian government, Russian troops lead nine men at gunpoint to their headquarters on Yablunska Street in Bucha, where they would be tortured and executed.

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    The men were picked up as part of what Russian soldiers called “zachistka” – cleansing. They hunted people on lists prepared by their intelligence services and went door to door to identify and neutralize potential threats.

    Later, when all the bodies were found strewn along the streets and packed in hasty graves, it would be easy to think the carnage was random. Residents asking how this happened would be told to make their peace, because some questions just don’t have answers.

    Yet there was a method to the violence.

    What happened that day in Bucha was what Russian soldiers on intercepted phone conversations called “zachistka” — cleansing. The Russians hunted people on lists prepared by their intelligence services and went door to door to identify potential threats. Those who didn’t pass this filtration, including volunteer fighters and civilians suspected of assisting Ukrainian troops, were tortured and executed, surveillance video, audio intercepts and interviews show.

    More here:

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interactive/ap-russia-war-crimes-ukraine/

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    George K
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    #1881

    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

    How Russian Soldiers Ran a "Cleansing" Operation in Bucha

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      And meanwhile, in Putin's hometown, Leningrad St. Petersburg.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #1883

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • AxtremusA Away
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          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/musk-stopped-ukraine-attack-russian-fleet-starlink-rcna104019

          New biography about Elon Musk claims that:

          Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his Starlink satellite network over Russian-occupied Crimea last year in order to prevent a Ukrainian drone attack on Russia’s naval fleet.

          The claim was immediately met with criticism from Kyiv.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/musk-stopped-ukraine-attack-russian-fleet-starlink-rcna104019

            New biography about Elon Musk claims that:

            Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his Starlink satellite network over Russian-occupied Crimea last year in order to prevent a Ukrainian drone attack on Russia’s naval fleet.

            The claim was immediately met with criticism from Kyiv.

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            #1885

            @Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

            https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/musk-stopped-ukraine-attack-russian-fleet-starlink-rcna104019

            New biography about Elon Musk claims that:

            Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his Starlink satellite network over Russian-occupied Crimea last year in order to prevent a Ukrainian drone attack on Russia’s naval fleet.

            The claim was immediately met with criticism from Kyiv.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
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              #1886

              Last night:

              And in Sevastopol:

              image.jpeg

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
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                image.jpeg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
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                  https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/15/7419986/

                  A Ukrainian uncrewed surface vessel (USV) hit a Samum-class missile carrier hovercraft on Thursday, 14 September.
                  Source: Ukrainska Pravda’s sources in the Security Service of Ukraine (SSU)

                  Details: The sources said the SSU's SeaBaby USV hit the Samum near the entry to Sevastopol Bay.

                  The USV hit the rear right side of the vessel, causing significant damage, which resulted in the ship losing power.

                  The sources stated that the Russians had to tow the Samum away for repairs "with a significant tilt at the stern and listing to starboard".

                  The SSU used an experimental model of USV capable of operating in a storm, using high waves for cover. The waves were 1.5-2 metres high at the time of the special operation.

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Another careless smoker:

                    In a clip shared online, massive plumes of grey smoke can be seen filling the sky in the Samara region of Russia.

                    They reportedly came from a major fire that raged through a “huge amount of equipment, including military equipment” at a bearings factory.

                    According to local Telegram channels, the blaze engulfed an area of 100 square meters and was triggered after oil caught fire.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Some of these I wonder are just ordinary occurrences.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Some of these I wonder are just ordinary occurrences.

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                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          Some of these I wonder are just ordinary occurrences.

                          Could be. How many shopping centers in a major city have burned in the US over the last year?

                          And the other one was a strategic site - ball bearings.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Sanctions are biting.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-running-out-of-pretty-much-everything-as-sanctions-bite/ar-AA1gNzAP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a966218bbc6940539575c845ba63a754&ei=22

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Sanctions are biting.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-running-out-of-pretty-much-everything-as-sanctions-bite/ar-AA1gNzAP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a966218bbc6940539575c845ba63a754&ei=22

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                              @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Sanctions are biting.

                              Interesting that it's taking so long. I guess it goes to show how long it takes for this kind of stuff to trickle down.

                              Paper? Tires? I can understand aircraft parts and computer chips, but I would never have thought about such mundane things.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                No Russians allowed:

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  That might buff right out.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
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                                    Big hole on a sub seems like it might be problematic.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        Mik
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                                        Be careful what you wish for.

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-russian-empire-is-crumbling-before-putin-s-eyes/ar-AA1h0YRm?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b5b057f9f8044162a9e77d76a75a524a&ei=14

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Here you go...

                                          https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/20/putin-accepts-invitation-to-visit-china-in-october-after-meeting-chinese-foreign-minister-in-moscow.html

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