The Ukraine war thread

[Horace]

@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

@Horace

Did it cross your mind that just may be that they followed the money?

I doubt financial forensics were involved. More likely cultural pressure.

[Renauda]

@Horace

Of course. How could it be otherwise?

[George K]

LOL

[Renauda]

@George-K

Yes, your source although questionable - https://oko.press/visegrad24-anonomous-account-mystery-revealed - is reporting accurately. PepsiCo is indeed on Kyiv’s naughty list:

https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/09/01/ukraines-anti-graft-agency-recognizes-pepsico-mars-intl-sponsors-of-war/

The same credibility however cannot be said for the Horace’s source, the greyzone.com, as this search link indicates:

https://www.google.com/search?q=thegrayzone.com&sca_esv=561932315&source=hp&ei=SvHxZP-KFPHAkPIP1qGWmAE&oq=thegrayzone.com&gs_lp=EhFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocCIPdGhlZ3JheXpvbmUuY29tSKWrAVC4CViqowFwB3gAkAEAmAGvAaAB6hWqAQQwLjIxuAEDyAEA-AEBqAIPwgIKEAAYAxiPARjqAsICChAuGAMYjwEY6gLCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICERAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGMcBGNEDwgILEAAYigUYsQMYgwHCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgIFEC4YgATCAggQABiABBixA8ICDRAuGIAEGMcBGNEDGArCAgQQABgDwgIHEAAYgAQYCsICDRAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGArCAgUQABiABMICBxAuGIAEGArCAg0QLhiABBjHARivARgKwgIQEC4YgAQYxwMYxwEYrwEYCsICDRAuGIMBGLEDGIAEGArCAgoQABiABBjHAxgKwgIFEAAYogTCAhAQABiABBixAxiDARjHAxgK&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp

[Horace]

Just like me to side with a far-left news source.

[Mik]

Well crap. We just bought some Ethel M chocolates.

[Jolly]

Silver bullets...

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-send-its-first-depleted-uranium-rounds-ukraine-sources-2023-09-01/

[Mik]

Good piece on the US and NATO. This alone would cause me to not vote for Trump or DeSantis.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-u-s-and-europe-are-splitting-over-ukraine/ar-AA1g8upQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=be1dac286cf4479d88610af0021b94d1&ei=54

[George K]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

How Russian Soldiers Ran a "Cleansing" Operation in Bucha

[George K]

And meanwhile, in Putin's hometown, Leningrad St. Petersburg.

[George K]

[Axtremus]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/musk-stopped-ukraine-attack-russian-fleet-starlink-rcna104019

New biography about Elon Musk claims that:

Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his Starlink satellite network over Russian-occupied Crimea last year in order to prevent a Ukrainian drone attack on Russia’s naval fleet.

The claim was immediately met with criticism from Kyiv.

[George K]

@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/musk-stopped-ukraine-attack-russian-fleet-starlink-rcna104019

New biography about Elon Musk claims that:

Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his Starlink satellite network over Russian-occupied Crimea last year in order to prevent a Ukrainian drone attack on Russia’s naval fleet.

The claim was immediately met with criticism from Kyiv.

[George K]

Last night:

And in Sevastopol:

[George K]

[George K]

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/15/7419986/

A Ukrainian uncrewed surface vessel (USV) hit a Samum-class missile carrier hovercraft on Thursday, 14 September.
Source: Ukrainska Pravda’s sources in the Security Service of Ukraine (SSU)

Details: The sources said the SSU's SeaBaby USV hit the Samum near the entry to Sevastopol Bay.

The USV hit the rear right side of the vessel, causing significant damage, which resulted in the ship losing power.

The sources stated that the Russians had to tow the Samum away for repairs "with a significant tilt at the stern and listing to starboard".

The SSU used an experimental model of USV capable of operating in a storm, using high waves for cover. The waves were 1.5-2 metres high at the time of the special operation.

[George K]

Another careless smoker:

In a clip shared online, massive plumes of grey smoke can be seen filling the sky in the Samara region of Russia.

They reportedly came from a major fire that raged through a “huge amount of equipment, including military equipment” at a bearings factory.

According to local Telegram channels, the blaze engulfed an area of 100 square meters and was triggered after oil caught fire.

[George K]

[Mik]

Some of these I wonder are just ordinary occurrences.

[George K]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

Some of these I wonder are just ordinary occurrences.

Could be. How many shopping centers in a major city have burned in the US over the last year?

And the other one was a strategic site - ball bearings.