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    Jolly
    wrote on 10 Jul 2023, 12:17 last edited by
    #1784

    If this is now a war of attrition, one side will eventually break the other. If Russia wishes to continue to commit blood and treasure, they have the resources to defeat Ukraine.

    Maybe the Russian people finally get enough of it and they change their government by some mechanism. So far, though, they haven't.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Renauda
      wrote on 10 Jul 2023, 14:32 last edited by
      #1785

      More from the alternative reality called Putin’s Russia….

      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/07/10/prigozhin-met-putin-in-person-after-failed-mutiny-kremlin-confirmskremlin-a81793

      Elbows up!

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        Mik
        wrote on 10 Jul 2023, 14:40 last edited by
        #1786

        Can’t afford to lose the troops.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          10 Jul 2023, 14:40

          Can’t afford to lose the troops.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 10 Jul 2023, 14:48 last edited by
          #1787

          @Mik

          I think you may be right.

          Elbows up!

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            10 Jul 2023, 14:32

            More from the alternative reality called Putin’s Russia….

            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/07/10/prigozhin-met-putin-in-person-after-failed-mutiny-kremlin-confirmskremlin-a81793

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            George K
            wrote on 10 Jul 2023, 23:36 last edited by
            #1788

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            More from the alternative reality called Putin’s Russia….

            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/07/10/prigozhin-met-putin-in-person-after-failed-mutiny-kremlin-confirmskremlin-a81793

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Wim
              wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 10:14 last edited by
              #1789

              Submarine commander killed
              https://www.kyivpost.com/post/19325?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Feurope

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              • W Wim
                11 Jul 2023, 10:14

                Submarine commander killed
                https://www.kyivpost.com/post/19325?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Feurope

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                Jolly
                wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 11:56 last edited by
                #1790

                @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Submarine commander killed
                https://www.kyivpost.com/post/19325?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Feurope

                They wanted to make sure he was dead. A Makarov mag only holds 8 rounds.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Wim
                  wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 14:57 last edited by
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                  Another one bites the dust...
                  https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/07/11/russias-southern-military-district-deputy-commander-lt-gen-tsokov-killed-in-missile-strike-media/

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 18:20 last edited by
                    #1792

                    New study shows that probably 50K russians soldiers have died in the Ukraine war.

                    https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/11/nearly-50000-russian-men-have-died-in-ukraine-war-new-study-finds-19103067/

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 18:31 last edited by Mik 7 Nov 2023, 23:28
                      #1793

                      I had read that, but it doesn't begin to touch the not immediately fatal casualties. How many actually died is not nearly as consequential as those who can no longer fight.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
                        wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 21:13 last edited by
                        #1794

                        Expanding Mik's comment: Conventional wisdom is that for every one fatality, at least two more are injured beyond the point where they can return to combat. So total casualties are in excess of 150K.

                        The question is what about Ukrainian casualties?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 21:22 last edited by
                          #1795

                          This guy keeps track.

                          https://lookerstudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/dfbcec47-7b01-400e-ab21-de8eb98c8f3a/page/p_wdrgjv1iyc?s=tJipopktA34

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            11 Jul 2023, 21:22

                            This guy keeps track.

                            https://lookerstudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/dfbcec47-7b01-400e-ab21-de8eb98c8f3a/page/p_wdrgjv1iyc?s=tJipopktA34

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                            George K
                            wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 21:23 last edited by
                            #1796

                            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            This guy keeps track.

                            https://lookerstudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/dfbcec47-7b01-400e-ab21-de8eb98c8f3a/page/p_wdrgjv1iyc?s=tJipopktA34

                            He claims 60.8K Russian soldiers confirmed killed.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              11 Jul 2023, 21:23

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              This guy keeps track.

                              https://lookerstudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/dfbcec47-7b01-400e-ab21-de8eb98c8f3a/page/p_wdrgjv1iyc?s=tJipopktA34

                              He claims 60.8K Russian soldiers confirmed killed.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 12 Jul 2023, 01:39 last edited by
                              #1797

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              This guy keeps track.

                              https://lookerstudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/dfbcec47-7b01-400e-ab21-de8eb98c8f3a/page/p_wdrgjv1iyc?s=tJipopktA34

                              He claims 60.8K Russian soldiers confirmed killed.

                              Any idea of the Ukraine killed?

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                                George K
                                wrote on 14 Jul 2023, 11:31 last edited by
                                #1798

                                Missed it by that much.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 14 Jul 2023, 18:12 last edited by
                                  #1799

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 15 Jul 2023, 00:58 last edited by
                                    #1800

                                    "A Russian general in charge of forces fighting in southern Ukraine has been relieved of his duties after speaking out about problems faced by his troops, a move that reflected new fissures in the military command following a brief rebellion by mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin."

                                    https://www.armytimes.com/flashpoints/ukraine/2023/07/13/russian-generals-dismissal-reveals-new-crack-in-military-leadership/

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 16 Jul 2023, 02:01 last edited by
                                      #1801

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 16 Jul 2023, 02:03 last edited by
                                        #1802

                                        Like that.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 17 Jul 2023, 03:03 last edited by
                                          #1803

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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