The Ukraine war thread
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wrote on 7 Jul 2023, 21:16 last edited by Renauda 7 Jul 2023, 21:18
Don’t know what to make of that.
A few of days back there was a rumour, albeit unsubstantiated, that mutinous Wagner mercenaries were going to bomb the Kerch bridge. I suspect it was just that - a rumour being circulated in a couple of dubious Fleet Street tabloids.
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wrote on 7 Jul 2023, 23:36 last edited by
I’d look askance at that rumor, but maybe we can’t entirely count out the actions of disaffected troops, be they Wagner or Russian army.
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I’d look askance at that rumor, but maybe we can’t entirely count out the actions of disaffected troops, be they Wagner or Russian army.
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wrote on 8 Jul 2023, 14:32 last edited by
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wrote on 8 Jul 2023, 15:51 last edited by
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wrote on 9 Jul 2023, 12:53 last edited by
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
My thinking as well. This war is truly a meat grinder for both sides.
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
My thinking as well. This war is truly a meat grinder for both sides.
Problem is, Russia has more meat.
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wrote on 9 Jul 2023, 12:56 last edited by
Russia also has a populace weary of war and an army that doesn't believe in the mission nor want to fight. Ukraine has a population fighting for their families.
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wrote on 10 Jul 2023, 12:17 last edited by
If this is now a war of attrition, one side will eventually break the other. If Russia wishes to continue to commit blood and treasure, they have the resources to defeat Ukraine.
Maybe the Russian people finally get enough of it and they change their government by some mechanism. So far, though, they haven't.
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wrote on 10 Jul 2023, 14:32 last edited by
More from the alternative reality called Putin’s Russia….
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wrote on 10 Jul 2023, 14:40 last edited by
Can’t afford to lose the troops.
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More from the alternative reality called Putin’s Russia….
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wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 10:14 last edited by
Submarine commander killed
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/19325?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Feurope -
Submarine commander killed
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/19325?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Feuropewrote on 11 Jul 2023, 11:56 last edited by@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:
Submarine commander killed
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/19325?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2FeuropeThey wanted to make sure he was dead. A Makarov mag only holds 8 rounds.
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wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 14:57 last edited by
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wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 18:20 last edited by
New study shows that probably 50K russians soldiers have died in the Ukraine war.
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wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 18:31 last edited by Mik 7 Nov 2023, 23:28
I had read that, but it doesn't begin to touch the not immediately fatal casualties. How many actually died is not nearly as consequential as those who can no longer fight.
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wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 21:13 last edited by
Expanding Mik's comment: Conventional wisdom is that for every one fatality, at least two more are injured beyond the point where they can return to combat. So total casualties are in excess of 150K.
The question is what about Ukrainian casualties?
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wrote on 11 Jul 2023, 21:22 last edited by