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    George K
    wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 11:50 last edited by
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    This sounds like it might be a big-ish deal:

    curious 'container' that Ukrainian troops captured today looks to actually represent a significant Russian loss and a potential intelligence goldmine. What Ukraine's forces found looks to be a containerized command post that is part of the Krasukha-4 mobile electronic warfare system. The Krasukha-4 is primarily designed to detect and jam large radars, such as those on airborne early warning and control aircraft, such as the U.S. Air Force's E-3 Sentry, and spy satellites.

    Ukrainian forces reportedly found this command post container outside of the capital Kyiv. Twitter user @UAWeapons was among the first to identify it as most likely being a component of the Krasukha-4 system, which is also known by nomenclature 1RL257, based on a picture that had emerged online. A complete Krasukha-4 consists of two vehicles, both based on the 8x8 KAMAZ-6350 truck, one with the electronic warfare (EW) system and the other carrying the command post module.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 12:15 last edited by George K
      #147

      More on the ships:

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        23 Mar 2022, 06:14

        Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

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        George K
        wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 12:17 last edited by
        #148

        @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

        More here from the NYT:

        Fascinating video and audio:

        https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

        The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 12:50 last edited by
          #149

          The sinking of this ship is a HUGE deal.

          1. It's a supply ship and was docked at the port of one of the first cities to fall in the early days of the war.
          2. Secondary explosions destroyed a fuel dump and munitions dump.
          3. Getting that boat out of the way for another supply ship will be a major undertaking.
          4. Other ships that were damaged will need extensive repairs.
          5. The Ukrainians are silent on how they did it. Speculation runs from ballistic missile attach, to a commando raid. Keep the Russians guessing is the strategy.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            24 Mar 2022, 12:17

            @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

            More here from the NYT:

            Fascinating video and audio:

            https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

            The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

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            Copper
            wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 13:05 last edited by
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            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

            The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

            racists

            They must be condemned

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              Copper
              wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 13:07 last edited by
              #151

              This is one of Russia's most capable Electronic Warfare Systems and potentially an intelligence goldmine.

              I guess it fell off the back of a truck. Did we send some Chicago gangsters over there to help?

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              • G George K
                24 Mar 2022, 12:17

                @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                More here from the NYT:

                Fascinating video and audio:

                https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

                The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 13:08 last edited by
                #152

                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                More here from the NYT:

                Fascinating video and audio:

                https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

                The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

                Well, there goes all of Ukraine’s support.

                The Brad

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                • L LuFins Dad
                  24 Mar 2022, 13:08

                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                  More here from the NYT:

                  Fascinating video and audio:

                  https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

                  The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

                  Well, there goes all of Ukraine’s support.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 13:37 last edited by jon-nyc
                  #153

                  @LuFins-Dad

                  It’s ok, it’s psyops. Since Russia considers them part of the same nation, a Traitor’s theme fucks with their heads.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 16:21 last edited by
                    #154

                    Ugh.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      24 Mar 2022, 16:21

                      Ugh.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 16:24 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc I saw that yesterday. It's clearly a residential area of no military value, other than being a potential spot for snipers.

                      The White House actually said "War Crimes" yesterday.

                      The link from the New York Times I posted earlier talks about Russian soldiers "clearing" residential areas.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 16:26 last edited by
                        #156

                        Dresden.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 16:36 last edited by
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                          I don't think it is comparable yet to Hamburg or Dresden or London in WW2, which were bombed over extended periods of time and where the destruction was more or less total. But it is of course pretty bad.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 16:41 last edited by
                            #158

                            I work with a guy who's wife has twin sons of military age in Mariupol. He managed to get the older folks out, but they're staying...

                            I was only joking

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                              24 Mar 2022, 16:41

                              I work with a guy who's wife has twin sons of military age in Mariupol. He managed to get the older folks out, but they're staying...

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 17:08 last edited by
                              #159

                              @Doctor-Phibes

                              I can’t imagine the anxiety.

                              Elbows up!

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 21:47 last edited by
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                                A joke from Moscow: "According to Putin the special military operation is really a conflict btw Russia and NATO about World dominance. Whats the situation now?" "Russia has lost 15000 troops, 6 generals, 500 tanks, 3 ships, 100 planes and 1000 trucks. NATO hasn't arrived yet."

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  24 Mar 2022, 21:47

                                  A joke from Moscow: "According to Putin the special military operation is really a conflict btw Russia and NATO about World dominance. Whats the situation now?" "Russia has lost 15000 troops, 6 generals, 500 tanks, 3 ships, 100 planes and 1000 trucks. NATO hasn't arrived yet."

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 22:55 last edited by Renauda
                                  #161

                                  @jon-nyc 😂

                                  That sound exactly like the Radio Yerevan jokes that circulated over there during Soviet times.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 00:39 last edited by
                                    #162

                                    Do you like to eat?

                                    Maybe Russia isn't so evil.

                                    ca772aba-96d2-4fd8-a5ca-7101023f1ad0-image.png

                                    https://www.foxnews.com/

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                                      25 Mar 2022, 00:39

                                      Do you like to eat?

                                      Maybe Russia isn't so evil.

                                      ca772aba-96d2-4fd8-a5ca-7101023f1ad0-image.png

                                      https://www.foxnews.com/

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 00:47 last edited by George K
                                      #163

                                      @Copper

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 00:48 last edited by
                                        #164

                                        Maybe I'll head over to the supermarket tomorrow to watch the panic.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 11:13 last edited by
                                          #165

                                          Duds:

                                          Russian missiles in Ukraine have failure rate of up to 60%, U.S. officials say

                                          Russian precision-guided missiles are failing up to 60% of the time in Ukraine, three U.S. officials with knowledge of intelligence on the issue told Reuters, a possible explanation for the poor progress of Russia's invasion.

                                          Since President Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, Russia has failed to achieve basic objectives such as neutralizing Ukraine's air force despite a vastly larger armed forces.

                                          The U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the information, did not provide evidence to support the assessment and did not disclose what precisely was driving high Russian missile failure rates.

                                          Reuters was unable to independently verify the figures.

                                          Though Reuters could not determine what a standard failure rate would be for air-launched cruise missiles, two experts interviewed by Reuters said any failure rate of 20% and above would be considered high.

                                          U.S. defense officials told reporters this week that the Pentagon assesses that Russia has launched more than 1,100 missiles of all kinds since the war began. The U.S. officials have so far not said how many of those hit their targets and how many failed to do so.

                                          Citing U.S. intelligence, three U.S. officials said the United States estimated that Russia's failure rate varied day-to-day, depended on the type of missile being launched, and could sometimes exceed 50%. Two of them said it reached as high as 60%.

                                          One of the officials said the intelligence showed that Russia's air-launched cruise missiles had a failure rate in the 20% to 60% range, depending on the day.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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