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    George K
    wrote on 15 Mar 2023, 00:06 last edited by
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    The most horrible thing you'll read today.

    Ukraine has accused two Russian soldiers of sexually assaulting a four-year-old girl and gang raping her mother at gunpoint in front of her father, as part of widespread allegations of abuse during the more than one-year-long invasion.

    According to Ukrainian prosecution files seen by Reuters, the incidents were among a spree of sex crimes Russian soldiers of the 15th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade committed in four homes of Brovary district near the capital Kyiv in March 2022.

    Russia's Defence Ministry did not respond to a request for comment. Phone numbers listed for the brigade were out of order. Two officials at the Samara Garrison, of which the brigade is a part, said they were unable to give contacts for the unit when contacted by Reuters, with one saying they were classified.

    Most of the alleged atrocities took place on March 13, when soldiers "in a state of alcoholic intoxication, broke into the yard of the house where a young family lived," the prosecutors alleged.

    The father was beaten with a metal pot then forced to kneel while his wife was gang raped. One of the soldiers told the four-year-old girl he "will make her a woman" before she was abused, the documents said.

    The family survived, though prosecutors said they are investigating additional crimes in the area including murders during the same period.

    President Vladimir Putin's government, which says it is fighting Western-backed "neo-Nazis" in Ukraine, has repeatedly denied allegations of atrocities. It has also denied that its military commanders are aware of sexual violence by soldiers.

    The soldiers were both snipers, aged 32 and 28, the files said, adding that the former had died while the younger, named as Yevgeniy Chernoknizhniy, returned to Russia.

    When Reuters asked for the identities of both soldiers, prosecutors provided only the name of the younger man. When Reuters called a number in online databases for him, a person saying he was Chernoknizhniy’s brother said he was deceased.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 15 Mar 2023, 00:12 last edited by
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      Add another to the list of those I’d love to see hanged.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Renauda
        wrote on 15 Mar 2023, 00:19 last edited by
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        A loathsome encore of the Red Army’s performance and march to Berlin in 44 and 45.

        Elbows up!

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          Mik
          wrote on 15 Mar 2023, 10:50 last edited by
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          It's all our fault, y'know.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-tells-aircraft-factory-workers-in-buryatia-how-he-was-tricked/ar-AA18CsRA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=eb8b7a6960fe46d5b1c1eb3fa1af59eb&ei=24

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Renauda
            wrote on 15 Mar 2023, 14:01 last edited by Renauda
            #1492

            @Mik

            Indeed, Putin and his machine love to play the victim in this war. Here is a presentation on the subject that was published today:

            https://open.substack.com/pub/snyder/p/playing-the-victim?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

            Elbows up!

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              Mik
              wrote on 15 Mar 2023, 21:47 last edited by
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              Interesting viewpoint, and true, I think. We need a plan for if things escalate.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-is-preparing-for-a-nuclear-showdown-we-must-be-ready/ar-AA18EkYu?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1539549b3ce245e8f032596c51b32527&ei=31

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • M Mik
                15 Mar 2023, 21:47

                Interesting viewpoint, and true, I think. We need a plan for if things escalate.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-is-preparing-for-a-nuclear-showdown-we-must-be-ready/ar-AA18EkYu?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1539549b3ce245e8f032596c51b32527&ei=31

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 15 Mar 2023, 21:54 last edited by
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                @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Interesting viewpoint, and true, I think. We need a plan for if things escalate.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-is-preparing-for-a-nuclear-showdown-we-must-be-ready/ar-AA18EkYu?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1539549b3ce245e8f032596c51b32527&ei=31

                I can't possibly see how this doesn't happen.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 15 Mar 2023, 21:55 last edited by
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                  If you want peace

                  prepare for war

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                  • M Mik
                    15 Mar 2023, 21:47

                    Interesting viewpoint, and true, I think. We need a plan for if things escalate.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-is-preparing-for-a-nuclear-showdown-we-must-be-ready/ar-AA18EkYu?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1539549b3ce245e8f032596c51b32527&ei=31

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 15 Mar 2023, 22:28 last edited by
                    #1496

                    @Mik

                    Putin is far more rational and calculating than many of his opponents give him credit for. He has a nose for weakness, including for his own fragility, but it is not infallible. He is fond of the good life. As Garry Kasparov pointed out, ‘Putin wants to rule like Stalin but live like Abramovich’.

                    Nails it.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 12:27 last edited by
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                      Speaking of nailing it...

                      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11866745/Russias-Wagner-mercenary-group-puts-ad-PORNHUB-new-recruits.html

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        16 Mar 2023, 12:27

                        Speaking of nailing it...

                        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11866745/Russias-Wagner-mercenary-group-puts-ad-PORNHUB-new-recruits.html

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 12:39 last edited by
                        #1498

                        @Jolly

                        Maybe it should be named the Wanker group.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 13:07 last edited by
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                          The French Foreign Legion used to be famous for their comfort girls. Maybe Wagner will adopt a similar policy...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            16 Mar 2023, 13:07

                            The French Foreign Legion used to be famous for their comfort girls. Maybe Wagner will adopt a similar policy...

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 13:29 last edited by
                            #1500

                            @Jolly

                            They really don’t need comfort girls. WG
                            already has a policy encouraging its brigands to rape and pillage with impunity.

                            Elbows up!

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 15:27 last edited by Mik
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                              A more detailed piece on the Russian claim that the west is to blame. A grain of salt, as it is written by Russian state media. An interesting view.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/unrest-around-russian-borders-shows-when-empires-crumble-they-become-murderous/ar-AA18HHXD?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7536fce55e1b4b2fa423121c1e845622&ei=50

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                16 Mar 2023, 15:27

                                A more detailed piece on the Russian claim that the west is to blame. A grain of salt, as it is written by Russian state media. An interesting view.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/unrest-around-russian-borders-shows-when-empires-crumble-they-become-murderous/ar-AA18HHXD?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7536fce55e1b4b2fa423121c1e845622&ei=50

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 16:05 last edited by Renauda
                                #1502

                                @Mik

                                Interesting yet perverted. His argument and logic have more holes than a brick of Swiss cheese.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 16:17 last edited by Renauda
                                  #1503

                                  Poland to send fighter jets to Ukraine. Hopefully this will encourage other former WP members to release their Soviet era inventories to Ukraine. Better late than never.

                                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64975770

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    16 Mar 2023, 16:05

                                    @Mik

                                    Interesting yet perverted. His argument and logic have more holes than a brick of Swiss cheese.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 16:38 last edited by
                                    #1504

                                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    @Mik

                                    Interesting yet perverted. His argument and logic have holes than a brick of Swiss cheese.

                                    Yeah, blaming colonialism is SO 20th century. 😁

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      16 Mar 2023, 16:17

                                      Poland to send fighter jets to Ukraine. Hopefully this will encourage other former WP members to release their Soviet era inventories to Ukraine. Better late than never.

                                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64975770

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 16:39 last edited by
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                                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Poland to send fighter jets to Ukraine. Hopefully this will encourage other former WP members to release their Soviet era inventories to Ukraine. Better late than never.

                                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64975770

                                      Anything that gives the Russians more to worry about is good.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 18:43 last edited by
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                                        However, more planes may not do much good, with both sides having effective ground threats to them.

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fighter-jets-are-worthless-over-ukraine-and-it-s-a-sign-of-what-us-pilots-and-troops-may-face-in-future-battles/ar-AA18IDMr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=756ad92001b64cd7d3c6c6f1b1f9b445&ei=22

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • M Mik
                                          16 Mar 2023, 18:43

                                          However, more planes may not do much good, with both sides having effective ground threats to them.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fighter-jets-are-worthless-over-ukraine-and-it-s-a-sign-of-what-us-pilots-and-troops-may-face-in-future-battles/ar-AA18IDMr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=756ad92001b64cd7d3c6c6f1b1f9b445&ei=22

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 19:12 last edited by Renauda
                                          #1507

                                          @Mik

                                          I get that it is a recognized dilemma in this war. Nevertheless at least by sending Ukraine the Soviet era aircraft the NATO states close to Ukraine and Russia can modernise their air forces. As well, by supplying Ukraine with more air capability, Russia will continue to be held back from gaining any meaningful air superiority over a wide area in Ukraine.

                                          Besides this war is not about to end any time soon. We either support Ukraine to the hilt or not.

                                          Elbows up!

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