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  • M Mik
    23 Mar 2022, 13:17

    There would be no strategic advantage in taking Russian territory. I could see incursions to take out specific near-border military targets, but that is probably not achievable.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 15:00 last edited by Renauda
    #139

    @Mik

    Indeed, it would be used by the Kremlin as a cause to escalate. Not that Kremlin feels it needs an excuse.

    Elbows up!

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      Copper
      wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 15:38 last edited by
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      An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

      See Jimmy Doolittle

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      • C Copper
        23 Mar 2022, 15:38

        An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

        See Jimmy Doolittle

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        Jolly
        wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 16:48 last edited by
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        @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

        An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

        See Jimmy Doolittle

        Japan didn't have nuclear weapons.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J jon-nyc
          23 Mar 2022, 06:14

          Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

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          George K
          wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 21:24 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

          More of this:

          https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-troops-are-now-turning-on-each-other-its-a-shtshow-one-soldier-is-recorded-telling-another?source=articles&via=rss

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Klaus
            wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 21:52 last edited by
            #143

            How can they have frostbite? I checked the weather in Ukraine and it seems to be pretty warm currently.

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            • K Klaus
              23 Mar 2022, 21:52

              How can they have frostbite? I checked the weather in Ukraine and it seems to be pretty warm currently.

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              George K
              wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 21:54 last edited by
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              @Klaus said in The Ukraine war thread:

              How can they have frostbite? I checked the weather in Ukraine and it seems to be pretty warm currently.

              It's been colder in the previous 2 weeks.

              https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/ukraine/kyiv/historic

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 11:09 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 11:50 last edited by
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                  This sounds like it might be a big-ish deal:

                  curious 'container' that Ukrainian troops captured today looks to actually represent a significant Russian loss and a potential intelligence goldmine. What Ukraine's forces found looks to be a containerized command post that is part of the Krasukha-4 mobile electronic warfare system. The Krasukha-4 is primarily designed to detect and jam large radars, such as those on airborne early warning and control aircraft, such as the U.S. Air Force's E-3 Sentry, and spy satellites.

                  Ukrainian forces reportedly found this command post container outside of the capital Kyiv. Twitter user @UAWeapons was among the first to identify it as most likely being a component of the Krasukha-4 system, which is also known by nomenclature 1RL257, based on a picture that had emerged online. A complete Krasukha-4 consists of two vehicles, both based on the 8x8 KAMAZ-6350 truck, one with the electronic warfare (EW) system and the other carrying the command post module.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 12:15 last edited by George K
                    #147

                    More on the ships:

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      23 Mar 2022, 06:14

                      Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 12:17 last edited by
                      #148

                      @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                      More here from the NYT:

                      Fascinating video and audio:

                      https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

                      The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 12:50 last edited by
                        #149

                        The sinking of this ship is a HUGE deal.

                        1. It's a supply ship and was docked at the port of one of the first cities to fall in the early days of the war.
                        2. Secondary explosions destroyed a fuel dump and munitions dump.
                        3. Getting that boat out of the way for another supply ship will be a major undertaking.
                        4. Other ships that were damaged will need extensive repairs.
                        5. The Ukrainians are silent on how they did it. Speculation runs from ballistic missile attach, to a commando raid. Keep the Russians guessing is the strategy.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          24 Mar 2022, 12:17

                          @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                          More here from the NYT:

                          Fascinating video and audio:

                          https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

                          The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 13:05 last edited by
                          #150

                          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

                          racists

                          They must be condemned

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 13:07 last edited by
                            #151

                            This is one of Russia's most capable Electronic Warfare Systems and potentially an intelligence goldmine.

                            I guess it fell off the back of a truck. Did we send some Chicago gangsters over there to help?

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                            • G George K
                              24 Mar 2022, 12:17

                              @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                              More here from the NYT:

                              Fascinating video and audio:

                              https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

                              The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 13:08 last edited by
                              #152

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                              More here from the NYT:

                              Fascinating video and audio:

                              https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

                              The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

                              Well, there goes all of Ukraine’s support.

                              The Brad

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                              • L LuFins Dad
                                24 Mar 2022, 13:08

                                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                                More here from the NYT:

                                Fascinating video and audio:

                                https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

                                The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

                                Well, there goes all of Ukraine’s support.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 13:37 last edited by jon-nyc
                                #153

                                @LuFins-Dad

                                It’s ok, it’s psyops. Since Russia considers them part of the same nation, a Traitor’s theme fucks with their heads.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 16:21 last edited by
                                  #154

                                  Ugh.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    24 Mar 2022, 16:21

                                    Ugh.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 16:24 last edited by
                                    #155

                                    @jon-nyc I saw that yesterday. It's clearly a residential area of no military value, other than being a potential spot for snipers.

                                    The White House actually said "War Crimes" yesterday.

                                    The link from the New York Times I posted earlier talks about Russian soldiers "clearing" residential areas.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 16:26 last edited by
                                      #156

                                      Dresden.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Klaus
                                        wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 16:36 last edited by
                                        #157

                                        I don't think it is comparable yet to Hamburg or Dresden or London in WW2, which were bombed over extended periods of time and where the destruction was more or less total. But it is of course pretty bad.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 16:41 last edited by
                                          #158

                                          I work with a guy who's wife has twin sons of military age in Mariupol. He managed to get the older folks out, but they're staying...

                                          I was only joking

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