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  • G George K
    3 Mar 2023, 22:46

    @Renauda well, that's certainly interesting.

    Do you think that this discussion came with approval from higher-up, or is it more likely that this commentator will suffer an unfortunate fall from an open window?

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    Renauda
    wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 22:49 last edited by
    #1459

    @George-K

    Difficult to say. It is only a snippet from the show and it could be a part of a patriotic rant.

    Elbows up!

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      Mik
      wrote on 5 Mar 2023, 13:51 last edited by
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      Crazy talk from Medvedev. Designed in hopes to make the west think twice?

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/medvedev-russia-may-have-to-push-back-poland-s-border-for-peace/ss-AA184Ltk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b62b69954c544d6c92ae970948095094&ei=11#image=1

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        5 Mar 2023, 13:51

        Crazy talk from Medvedev. Designed in hopes to make the west think twice?

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/medvedev-russia-may-have-to-push-back-poland-s-border-for-peace/ss-AA184Ltk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b62b69954c544d6c92ae970948095094&ei=11#image=1

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        Renauda
        wrote on 5 Mar 2023, 14:51 last edited by
        #1461

        @Mik

        Crazy talk but nothing substantially different from his usual jingoistic gibberish. He is restating Russia’s objective of obliterating the Ukrainian state. Medvedev has assumed the role of Goebbels in the histrionics arising out of this war.

        Elbows up!

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          Renauda
          wrote on 5 Mar 2023, 17:21 last edited by Renauda 3 May 2023, 17:21
          #1462

          This war has had medieval tactics from its outset. Arguably Russian tactics could be referred or compared to a chevauchée.

          Seems that shovels are being employed in a melee:

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64855760

          Elbows up!

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          • R Renauda
            5 Mar 2023, 17:21

            This war has had medieval tactics from its outset. Arguably Russian tactics could be referred or compared to a chevauchée.

            Seems that shovels are being employed in a melee:

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64855760

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            George K
            wrote on 5 Mar 2023, 17:28 last edited by
            #1463

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Arguably Russian tactics could be referred or compared to a chevauchée.

            I saw that earlier.

            From this tweet, it appears that their 21st century tactics aren't all that good either. Another friendly-fire?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 7 Mar 2023, 20:37 last edited by
              #1464

              Putin is stuck in the mud just he was last year about this time:

              https://www.forces.net/comment/opinion-putin-stuck-mud-hitler?utm_source=Forces+Newsletter&utm_campaign=83dd021bc6-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_03_07_05_47&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-83dd021bc6-[LIST_EMAIL_ID]

              Elbows up!

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                Mik
                wrote on 7 Mar 2023, 20:58 last edited by
                #1465

                The price of cherry-picking history.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • M Mik
                  7 Mar 2023, 20:58

                  The price of cherry-picking history.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 7 Mar 2023, 21:32 last edited by Renauda 3 Aug 2023, 01:33
                  #1466

                  @Mik

                  That and not understanding the lessons of history. Not surprising though, as he grew up and was educated in a country that distorted history in a vain attempt to legitimize itself.

                  Elbows up!

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                    George K
                    wrote on 8 Mar 2023, 01:22 last edited by
                    #1467

                    War Crime

                    Warning: Graphic video.

                    https://censor-net.translate.goog/ua/video_news/3403991/okupanty_vprytul_rozstrilyaly_bezzbroyinogo_ukrayinskogo_voyina_pislya_sliv_slava_ukrayini_video_21?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

                    "The Russian military posted a video of the shooting of a captured soldier who refuses to take off his chevron with the national flag and dies with the words "Glory to Ukraine". If anyone recognizes this person and can tell where and under what circumstances he could have been captured, write to me. please. We must find out all the circumstances of this yet another terrible war crime committed by the Russian Federation," said Butusov's telegram

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      8 Mar 2023, 01:22

                      War Crime

                      Warning: Graphic video.

                      https://censor-net.translate.goog/ua/video_news/3403991/okupanty_vprytul_rozstrilyaly_bezzbroyinogo_ukrayinskogo_voyina_pislya_sliv_slava_ukrayini_video_21?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

                      "The Russian military posted a video of the shooting of a captured soldier who refuses to take off his chevron with the national flag and dies with the words "Glory to Ukraine". If anyone recognizes this person and can tell where and under what circumstances he could have been captured, write to me. please. We must find out all the circumstances of this yet another terrible war crime committed by the Russian Federation," said Butusov's telegram

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on 8 Mar 2023, 02:20 last edited by
                      #1468

                      @George-K Wow!!!

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 8 Mar 2023, 02:56 last edited by
                        #1469

                        Pure unadulterated balls. I am quite sure he is in Valhalla.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • M Mik
                          8 Mar 2023, 02:56

                          Pure unadulterated balls. I am quite sure he is in Valhalla.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 8 Mar 2023, 03:22 last edited by
                          #1470

                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          Pure unadulterated balls. I am quite sure he is in Valhalla.

                          Drengr. Hann er Drengr.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 02:44 last edited by jon-nyc 3 Sept 2023, 02:44
                            #1471

                            American Churchill.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              9 Mar 2023, 02:44

                              American Churchill.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 03:50 last edited by
                              #1472

                              @jon-nyc Peace in our time!

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 11:33 last edited by
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                                How nice that Fox patriotically edited out the comment.

                                Journalistic excellence FTW!

                                Oh, sorry, sorry, mustn't shoot the messenger.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 15:56 last edited by Renauda 3 Sept 2023, 20:08
                                  #1474

                                  As John Bolton stated in a recent interview “Putin thought Trump was a fool who could be easily manipulable if he could get him the right situations”. Putin certainly recognized that Trump admired the other strong man leaders like Erdogan, Xi and Kim. Moreover, he saw Trump as a force set out to weaken if not altogether dissolve NATO.

                                  Trump sold out the Kurds to Erdogan so why, in his little narcissistic brain, should the Ukrainians be not be sold out to Putin?

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 16:43 last edited by
                                    #1475

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-sees-spike-in-mobilized-troops-refusing-to-go-to-death-ukraine/ar-AA18nVge?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8fbad7f76be34063952073a52eeafbd7&ei=63

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 10 Mar 2023, 15:32 last edited by
                                      #1476

                                      Sidelining Prigozhin:

                                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/09/wagner-boss-cut-off-from-official-channels-after-public-ammo-plea-a80437

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • R Renauda
                                        10 Mar 2023, 15:32

                                        Sidelining Prigozhin:

                                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/09/wagner-boss-cut-off-from-official-channels-after-public-ammo-plea-a80437

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 10 Mar 2023, 15:35 last edited by
                                        #1477

                                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Sidelining Prigozhin:

                                        Is this a big deal?

                                        Wagner seems to have played a big role in the "special military operation." Will it continue to do so with Prigozhin on the outs?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • G George K
                                          10 Mar 2023, 15:35

                                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Sidelining Prigozhin:

                                          Is this a big deal?

                                          Wagner seems to have played a big role in the "special military operation." Will it continue to do so with Prigozhin on the outs?

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 10 Mar 2023, 16:01 last edited by
                                          #1478

                                          @George-K

                                          Given the Byzantine nature of Kremlin politics, I don’t think anyone on the outside knows. Suffice to say though that Prigozhin accumulated a lot power over the course of a dozen or so years. Up until recently he has been treated as a palatine prince. That privileged status appears to be waning as of late.

                                          Elbows up!

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