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    George K
    wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 01:02 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 01:27 last edited by
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      Read the comments - doesn't seem all that reliable.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Renauda
        wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 04:33 last edited by Renauda
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        Regardless of where the missile was fired from, AWACS staff had one hell of wild day today. Still, if the missile was a Ukrainian air defence rocket that went astray the fault still rests on the Kremlin. That weapon would not have been fired unless the Russians had initiated their own missile attack into that area of western Ukraine.

        Either way, Putin owns it

        Elbows up!

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        • R Renauda
          16 Nov 2022, 04:33

          Regardless of where the missile was fired from, AWACS staff had one hell of wild day today. Still, if the missile was a Ukrainian air defence rocket that went astray the fault still rests on the Kremlin. That weapon would not have been fired unless the Russians had initiated their own missile attack into that area of western Ukraine.

          Either way, Putin owns it

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          George K
          wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 12:25 last edited by
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          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Either way, Putin owns it

          Agreed. Most are saying that it was fired from Ukraine as a defense against incoming Russian missiles.

          Darth opines:

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            14 Nov 2022, 15:26

            In what kind of army does this even happen?

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            Renauda
            wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 15:00 last edited by
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            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

            In what kind of army does this even happen?

            Consequences:

            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/16/russian-soldier-faces-15-years-in-jail-after-criticizing-poor-training-reports-a79389

            Elbows up!

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            • G George K
              16 Nov 2022, 12:25

              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Either way, Putin owns it

              Agreed. Most are saying that it was fired from Ukraine as a defense against incoming Russian missiles.

              Darth opines:

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              Renauda
              wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 15:44 last edited by
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              @George-K

              NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said that "Russia bears ultimate responsibility, as it continues its illegal war against Ukraine," while also stating there were no signs the missile incident was intentional.

              "An investigation is ongoing, and we need to await its outcome, but we have no indication that this was an assault or a deliberate attack," Stoltenberg said, adding that there is no proof that "Russia is preparing offensive military actions against NATO."

              https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/16/poland-blast-biden-says-missile-that-killed-two-may-not-have-come-from-russia

              Elbows up!

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                Mik
                wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 18:24 last edited by
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                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • M Mik
                  17 Nov 2022, 18:24

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 18:31 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                  Apparently, he shot himself 5 times and then brutally accidentally cut off his own head with a pair of scissors.

                  I was only joking

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    17 Nov 2022, 18:31

                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                    Apparently, he shot himself 5 times and then brutally accidentally cut off his own head with a pair of scissors.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 18:52 last edited by
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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Apparently, he shot himself 5 times and then brutally accidentally cut off his own head with a pair of scissors.

                    With four pistols.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 18:53 last edited by
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                      Overkill?

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 19:47 last edited by
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                        Cri-mea river.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-swan-song-cri-me-a-river/ar-AA14dI33?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=073a2143db3b41d39ae0cf9d5b2d0d34

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • M Mik
                          17 Nov 2022, 18:24

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 21:31 last edited by Renauda
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                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                          Vladivostok is a tough mob controlled city where bribery of officials is normal and life is cheap. Could very well be that some mobster’s brat was called up and the deceased Colonel wouldn’t play the game unless he received more money. Could be that it some of local hoods were called up and simply didn’t want go. Could be that the deceased just didn’t show enough respect for a mob boss. Could be anything or nothing. He got whacked that’s all.,

                          Doubt they will find out why he he got whacked and by whom - that they pronounced it a suicide suggests to me that the investigators were covered and paid well in advance.

                          Elbows up!

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                            George K
                            wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 16:42 last edited by
                            #1237

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 19 Nov 2022, 13:54 last edited by
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                              Russia's economy set back 40 years.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-isn-t-just-losing-in-ukraine-he-s-set-russia-s-economy-back-40-years/ar-AA14gqKJ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d43a10973d4d4fe0b4c2cc5ae43c5ddb

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 19 Nov 2022, 18:55 last edited by
                                #1239

                                Kherson resistance fighters

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stealthy-kherson-resistance-fighters-undermined-russian-occupying-forces/ar-AA14hoPN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f81b74f2a58e481a96b18222bcb87e20

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 20 Nov 2022, 18:48 last edited by
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                                  Prepare for the long haul:

                                  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nato-long-haul-ukraine-1.6658147

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 02:37 last edited by
                                    #1241

                                    First criminal cases for Russian conscripts who are refusing to fight:

                                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/21/first-criminal-case-opened-against-russian-conscripts-refusing-to-fight-a79448

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 23 Nov 2022, 12:58 last edited by
                                      #1242

                                      They look well equipped:

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Wim
                                        wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 15:07 last edited by
                                        #1243

                                        https://warsawinstitute.org/ukraine-launches-assault-on-the-strategic-kinburn-peninsula/
                                        Step by step...

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 15:19 last edited by
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                                          Ukraine seems to be very adept strategically and tactically. Excellent at cutting Russian resupply routes.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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