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    George K
    wrote on 6 Nov 2022, 12:06 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 6 Nov 2022, 13:34 last edited by
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      Resistance springs eternal.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/assassination-attempt-on-pro-russia-judge-who-sentenced-british-prisoners-to-death/ar-AA13MpW4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2208d9de941c4c219f99596bf70c16f8

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
        wrote on 6 Nov 2022, 14:21 last edited by
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        U.S. trained...

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-recruits-us-trained-soldiers-pentagon-focused-on-halting-attacks-on-ukraine-infrastructure-live-updates/ar-AA13zOI8?li=BBorjTa

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Renauda
          wrote on 6 Nov 2022, 15:10 last edited by
          #1191

          Fog of war…

          Link to video

          Elbows up!

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            Mik
            wrote on 6 Nov 2022, 15:32 last edited by
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            There's no question that the media has played a huge role in this war. Whenever I heard about Russian atrocities, I could not help but wonder what the Russian press was printing during our invasion of Iraq

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • M Mik
              2 Nov 2022, 12:44

              Seems he brooks no criticism. Thug.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-lawmaker-who-criticized-vladimir-putin-s-war-in-ukraine-left-comatose-after-incident-inside-parliament-building/ar-AA13DdB7?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f82790759f0341f2dc1d36cc52dd98de

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 6 Nov 2022, 15:41 last edited by
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              @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Seems he brooks no criticism. Thug.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-lawmaker-who-criticized-vladimir-putin-s-war-in-ukraine-left-comatose-after-incident-inside-parliament-building/ar-AA13DdB7?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f82790759f0341f2dc1d36cc52dd98de

              What they don’t mention for some reason is that Karpov is a former world chess champion - one of the all time greats

              I was only joking

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              • M Mik
                6 Nov 2022, 15:32

                There's no question that the media has played a huge role in this war. Whenever I heard about Russian atrocities, I could not help but wonder what the Russian press was printing during our invasion of Iraq

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                Renauda
                wrote on 6 Nov 2022, 17:42 last edited by Renauda 11 Jul 2022, 04:44
                #1194

                @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                There's no question that the media has played a huge role in this war. Whenever I heard about Russian atrocities, I could not help but wonder what the Russian press was printing during our invasion of Iraq

                From what I recall, the Russian press was fairly mute about what was happening on the ground in Iraq. It was critical of the policy of regime change although it was no longer pro Ba’athist. I suspect Russia was too preoccupied with its own Chechen problems and growing concern with the nascent pro Western aspirations in Ukraine and to a lesser extent, Georgia. Remember too that Russia was still very focused on attracting foreign investment and technology and therefore wanted to appear to have a foreign policy based on soft power. We know now however that behind the scenes, Putin was methodically preparing the country to reassert itself as a hard power and challenge the global influence of Western liberalism.

                Elbows up!

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                  George K
                  wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 02:14 last edited by
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                  Interesting look at what was prognosticated a month before the invasion:

                  https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/28/europe/ukraine-russia-explainer-war-threat-cmd-intl/index.html

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 14:01 last edited by
                    #1196

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/battalion-of-russian-mobilised-men-wiped-out-in-days-survivors-claim/ar-AA13NRTf?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d66e439eac28414ca297c50de4ed59fa

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      George K
                      wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 14:14 last edited by
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                      Dovetailing with what @Mik said, Russia has lost more fighter jets in these 10 months than it did in its entire stay if Afghanistan.

                      Granted, the enemies are not quite the same (US support for both notwithstanding), but considering how unpopular the Afghanistan adventure was, this is telling.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 14:18 last edited by
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                        Wow...

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 14:22 last edited by
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                          Mutiny?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 14:32 last edited by Mik 11 Jul 2022, 14:34
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                            Wow. How do you fight with an army like that? This is one area where I disagree with McCarthy and the like. We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory. Any negotiation sounds to me like "Peace in our time".

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • M Mik
                              7 Nov 2022, 14:32

                              Wow. How do you fight with an army like that? This is one area where I disagree with McCarthy and the like. We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory. Any negotiation sounds to me like "Peace in our time".

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 14:33 last edited by
                              #1201

                              @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Wow. How do you fight with an army like that?

                              Badly

                              I was only joking

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 17:44 last edited by
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                                They used the f-word. They need to be canceled.

                                The Brad

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                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  7 Nov 2022, 14:33

                                  @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Wow. How do you fight with an army like that?

                                  Badly

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 21:30 last edited by
                                  #1203

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Wow. How do you fight with an army like that?

                                  Badly

                                  I have said for some weeks now it’s just a matter of time that the Russian soldiers will starting voting with their feet as they did in 1917. Maybe we’re are seeing the beginnings of that vote.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 21:34 last edited by
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                                    Another one bites the dust. Sadly, not in the conventional sense.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-pulls-commander-in-ukraine-following-criticism-over-battlefield-losses/ar-AA13Q44p?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=eea485b200554f129be1ed55941372d9

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      7 Nov 2022, 14:32

                                      Wow. How do you fight with an army like that? This is one area where I disagree with McCarthy and the like. We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory. Any negotiation sounds to me like "Peace in our time".

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 21:46 last edited by
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                                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory.

                                      Because we don't want them to turn on us.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 15:51 last edited by Renauda 11 Sept 2022, 17:18
                                        #1206

                                        Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          9 Nov 2022, 15:51

                                          Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 12:42 last edited by
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                                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

                                          https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-is-wary-of-russias-kherson-retreat-fearing-a-trap-11668078822?mod=e2tw

                                          Ukrainian officials urged caution about Russia’s announced withdrawal from the southern city of Kherson, as U.S. officials estimated that 100,000 troops on each side had been killed or wounded since the war began.

                                          Russia said on Wednesday that it was pulling troops from Kherson and surrounding areas, abandoning the only regional capital it had seized since its invasion in February and boosting Ukraine’s campaign to regain lost land.

                                          But officials in Kyiv have warned that the Russian claim could be a way of luring Ukrainian soldiers into a bloody fight for the city, where signs suggest Russia still has a sizable contingent of forces and has booby-trapped key objects of infrastructure to slow Ukraine’s advance.

                                          “It’s important to understand: No one leaves any place just like that,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his late-night video address on Wednesday.

                                          Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Mr. Zelensky, said Kyiv is seeing no sign that Russia will leave Kherson without a fight. The Russian military has heavily mined the city, he said on Thursday, and plans to use artillery positioned on the eastern bank to turn urban areas into ruin. Kherson, he said in a tweet, may be turned into a “city of death.”

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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