The Ukraine war thread
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@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
I see it.
I just checked Google news. Here are the headlines:
- Russia-Ukraine War: What Happened Today
- Ukraine's Zelenskiy presses Israel for missile defence help, fighting rages in Mariupol
- Russia says it used hypersonic missiles in Ukraine again
- First Thing: Talks between Russia and Ukraine to resume
Not a single one of those stories are advocating for World War III. Not one.
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@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
Missing the bigger picture, aren't you?
How it works is, if you make a claim, you have to back it up. I gave you today's news as proof no one was advocating for World War III. You countered with the They Live defense, and without any evidence.
And I'd be willing to bet that this conversation could go on for days and you'll still never quote an article and claim it's evidence that they're advocating for WWIII.
Until you do, I'm done pretending this is an actual discussion.
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@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
Missing the bigger picture, aren't you?
From what I've seen, the 'bigger picture' is certain people trying to make this about the US media and the USA political landscape in general.
This war isn't primarily about American domestic policies.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
Missing the bigger picture, aren't you?
From what I've seen, the 'bigger picture' is certain people trying to make this about the US media and the USA political landscape in general.
Well I say, this is the first I've ever heard of an American falling victim to that!
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
Missing the bigger picture, aren't you?
From what I've seen, the 'bigger picture' is certain people trying to make this about the US media and the USA political landscape in general.
Well I say, this is the first I've ever heard of an American falling victim to that!
And I thought thought it was all about pop culture and Putin’s repressed
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@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Tonight's update.
10%-20% of their total equipment loss in one day? Ouch.
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Tonight's update.
10%-20% of their total equipment loss in one day? Ouch.
Wait, that’s since 03/16. My bad.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
Missing the bigger picture, aren't you?
How it works is, if you make a claim, you have to back it up. I gave you today's news as proof no one was advocating for World War III. You countered with the They Live defense, and without any evidence.
And I'd be willing to bet that this conversation could go on for days and you'll still never quote an article and claim it's evidence that they're advocating for WWIII.
Until you do, I'm done pretending this is an actual discussion.
You can pretend what you wish. Very hard to quote articles for original thought.
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Are you suggesting that this war was orchestrated by the Bidens and others in the DNC to have the Ukrainians fight the Russians as US proxies?
If you do, I suggest it is you who ought to dig a little deeper in the information that is out there. This is entirely Putin’s war and he has been preparing for it on and off ever since Viktor Yushchenko’s presidential win in Ukraine’s Orange Revolution and election in December 2004 and January 2005.
May I recommend a concise and highly readable start in your research:
https://www.amazon.ca/Who-Lost-Russia-World-Entered/dp/1786070413
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It appears difficult to discuss how the American media covers a story and its motivations for doing so, without being accused of thinking the subject of the story is America. That interpretation of the discussion is a simple misunderstanding, but one from which people for some reason refuse to dislodge.
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@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
It appears difficult to discuss how the American media covers a story and its motivations for doing so, without being accused of thinking the subject of the story is America. That interpretation of the discussion is a simple misunderstanding, but one from which people for some reason refuse to dislodge.
Well, if Jolly would make clear what he's actually trying to say, rather than just drop hints about some kind of conspiracy or 'deeper truths', it would be a lot easier to discuss this in a straightforward manner.
As far as I can tell, the motivation behind this war is very easy to understand. There's no need for talk of conspiracies or hidden forces at work.
People should just come out and say what they mean. When people skirt around an issue and drop hints and all the rest of it, I'm left wondering if they're just covering their ass for later so they can say "I never said that!". This is TNCR, nobody important gives a shit what any of us say, after all.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
It appears difficult to discuss how the American media covers a story and its motivations for doing so, without being accused of thinking the subject of the story is America. That interpretation of the discussion is a simple misunderstanding, but one from which people for some reason refuse to dislodge.
Well, if Jolly would make clear what he's actually trying to say, rather than just drop hints about some kind of conspiracy or 'deeper truths', it would be a lot easier to discuss this in a straightforward manner.
As far as I can tell, the motivation behind this war is very easy to understand. There's no need for talk of conspiracies or hidden forces at work.
People enjoy being enigmatic. Jon was artfully enigmatic in his post above, which I asked clarification of. But you don’t see me complaining about it.
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@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
It appears difficult to discuss how the American media covers a story and its motivations for doing so, without being accused of thinking the subject of the story is America. That interpretation of the discussion is a simple misunderstanding, but one from which people for some reason refuse to dislodge.
Well, if Jolly would make clear what he's actually trying to say, rather than just drop hints about some kind of conspiracy or 'deeper truths', it would be a lot easier to discuss this in a straightforward manner.
As far as I can tell, the motivation behind this war is very easy to understand. There's no need for talk of conspiracies or hidden forces at work.
People enjoy being enigmatic. Jon was artfully enigmatic in his post above, which I asked clarification of. But you don’t see me complaining about it.
My sources tell me otherwise.
Be seeing you.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
People should just come out and say what they mean. When people skirt around an issue and drop hints and all the rest of it, I'm left wondering if they're just covering their ass for later so they can say "I never said that!". This is TNCR, nobody important gives a shit what any of us say, after all.
The education I provide here is not for my contemporaries. The internet is forever, and I think my teachings will take hold in 50 or 60 generations, when our cultural ideas are sufficiently sophisticated to accept them.
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@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
It appears difficult to discuss how the American media covers a story and its motivations for doing so, without being accused of thinking the subject of the story is America. That interpretation of the discussion is a simple misunderstanding, but one from which people for some reason refuse to dislodge.
Well, if Jolly would make clear what he's actually trying to say, rather than just drop hints about some kind of conspiracy or 'deeper truths', it would be a lot easier to discuss this in a straightforward manner.
As far as I can tell, the motivation behind this war is very easy to understand. There's no need for talk of conspiracies or hidden forces at work.
People enjoy being enigmatic. Jon was artfully enigmatic in his post above, which I asked clarification of. But you don’t see me complaining about it.
How was he enigmatic? We all know what he meant.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
It appears difficult to discuss how the American media covers a story and its motivations for doing so, without being accused of thinking the subject of the story is America. That interpretation of the discussion is a simple misunderstanding, but one from which people for some reason refuse to dislodge.
Well, if Jolly would make clear what he's actually trying to say, rather than just drop hints about some kind of conspiracy or 'deeper truths', it would be a lot easier to discuss this in a straightforward manner.
As far as I can tell, the motivation behind this war is very easy to understand. There's no need for talk of conspiracies or hidden forces at work.
People enjoy being enigmatic. Jon was artfully enigmatic in his post above, which I asked clarification of. But you don’t see me complaining about it.
How was he enigmatic? We all know what he meant.
Maybe the whole world shares in this feeling that there’s a sharp line between boots on the ground and economic support for other boots on the ground, but considering the fact that that feeling is completely irrational, I wouldn’t count on it being held by everybody forever.
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@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Horace said in The Ukraine war thread:
It appears difficult to discuss how the American media covers a story and its motivations for doing so, without being accused of thinking the subject of the story is America. That interpretation of the discussion is a simple misunderstanding, but one from which people for some reason refuse to dislodge.
Well, if Jolly would make clear what he's actually trying to say, rather than just drop hints about some kind of conspiracy or 'deeper truths', it would be a lot easier to discuss this in a straightforward manner.
As far as I can tell, the motivation behind this war is very easy to understand. There's no need for talk of conspiracies or hidden forces at work.
People enjoy being enigmatic. Jon was artfully enigmatic in his post above, which I asked clarification of. But you don’t see me complaining about it.
How was he enigmatic? We all know what he meant.
Maybe the whole world shares in this feeling that there’s a sharp line between boots on the ground and economic support for other boots on the ground, but considering the fact that that feeling is completely irrational, I wouldn’t count on it being held by everybody forever.
Who doesn't understand that it's ideal to strike a balance between supporting Ukraine and a nuclear winter?