Top Russian General Killed
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@George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:
Deputy Commander Of Russia's Black Sea Fleet Reportedly Killed In Action
The deputy commander of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet has been killed in battle near the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, the Kremlin-installed governor of the Russia-occupied city of Sevastopol said.
"Captain 1st Rank Andrei Nikolayevich Paly was killed in the fighting [near Mariupol]," Mikhail Razvozhayev said on his Telegram channel.
Reports said the general was 51 years old.
The Russian Navy did not respond to a request for comment.
Sevastopol, a port city on the Crimea Peninsula, is the base of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Crimea was seized and annexed by Russia in 2014.
If confirmed, it would mark the latest fatality among Russia’s top military officers following reports of several being killed in action during the invasion of Ukraine.
On March 19, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy claimed that the commander of the Russian Eighth Army, Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev, had been killed at the Chornobaivka airfield near the city of Kherson.
The Ukrainian Presidency at the time said the general was the fifth top-ranking officer killed since the invasion began on February 24, an unprecedented number of fatalities among a military leadership in such a short period of time.
The claims could not be independently confirmed.
A Naval Commander sounds a little less unusual. My bet is he was on one of the ships attacking the city?
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Petraeus:
"Former US army general and CIA director David Petraeus said Ukraine also has "good snipers" which are able to target key individuals when a Russian chain of command breaks down.
He said: "The communications have been jammed. The column gets stopped, and an impatient general goes forward to see what’s going on.
"There’s no initiative, no non-commissioned officer corps, no sense of initiative at junior levels. They wait to be told what to do, and the Ukrainians have very, very good snipers."
An anonymous diplomat also told Foreign Policy that generals were "struggling on the front line to get their orders through".
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:
Ukrainian Propaganda?
One comment was, "Was it suicide or 'suicine'?"
Because of this the Commander of the 13th Regiment of the 4th Guards Tank Division allegedly committed suicide..
What did he know about the Clintons?
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Russian Army Commander General Vlaislav Yershov, of the 6th Combined Arms Army, has been identified as the general sacked earlier this week by Vladimir Putin.
It has been reported his abrupt dismissal was due to the heavy losses and strategic failures seen during the Russian military's month-long invasion of its neighbour.
He was identified by a Western official on Friday who also named the seven Russian generals they said had so far been killed in the 30 days since the Russian president ordered his troops into Ukraine on February 24.
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@Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:
You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.
I think @Renauda can fill in more.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:
@Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:
You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.
Autocracies gonna autocrat.
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I am the very model of a modern Russian General
I headed up a convoy and it didn't really go so well
The mud and muck and broken trucks caused our mission to go straight to hell
The frozen rain and frostbite are causing all our toes to swell...Ok, somebody take the second stanza...
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Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top..
The Russians have NCO ranks with similar responsibilities as their western counterparts. At least on paper that is. The difference though is that our NCOs have the authority to act upon their responsibilities. It is their duty and initiative in fulfillment of duty is expected of them. Russian NCOs appear to have rank but no authority. They have very prescribed duties to follow orders from above. As such, they can only be described as NCOs by rank and seniority.
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Ukrainian forces have killed two more Russian generals in a strike on a command post near occupied Kherson, authorities said Saturday. That would bring the total tally to at least nine since the start of Russia’s “special operation” against Ukraine on Feb. 24. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry’s Intelligence Directorate announced the strike Saturday, saying the “crushing blow” was dealt to the operations center of the 49th Combined Arms Army of the Russian Armed Forces. The command post, according to Ukraine’s military intelligence, “contrary to common sense… was located just a slight distance” from the front line in the Kherson region. A third Russian general was also severely wounded in the strike, they said. Ukrainian presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych, in an interview with former-lawyer-turned-journalist Mark Feygin on Saturday, said he thinks the third general “will not survive.” He said Ukrainian intelligence is still busy determining the identities of those killed, but there were some 50 high-ranking Russian officers at the command post at the time.
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