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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #64

    Petraeus:

    "Former US army general and CIA director David Petraeus said Ukraine also has "good snipers" which are able to target key individuals when a Russian chain of command breaks down.

    He said: "The communications have been jammed. The column gets stopped, and an impatient general goes forward to see what’s going on.

    "There’s no initiative, no non-commissioned officer corps, no sense of initiative at junior levels. They wait to be told what to do, and the Ukrainians have very, very good snipers."

    An anonymous diplomat also told Foreign Policy that generals were "struggling on the front line to get their orders through".

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #65

      Ukrainian Propaganda?

      One comment was, "Was it suicide or 'suicine'?"

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        Ukrainian Propaganda?

        One comment was, "Was it suicide or 'suicine'?"

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #66

        @George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:

        Ukrainian Propaganda?

        One comment was, "Was it suicide or 'suicine'?"

        Because of this the Commander of the 13th Regiment of the 4th Guards Tank Division allegedly committed suicide..

        What did he know about the Clintons?

        The Brad

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        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          #67

          I hope some of our guys in Langley are clever enough to help The Ukrainians make up stuff like this.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #68

            You're fired.

            Russian Army Commander General Vlaislav Yershov, of the 6th Combined Arms Army, has been identified as the general sacked earlier this week by Vladimir Putin.

            It has been reported his abrupt dismissal was due to the heavy losses and strategic failures seen during the Russian military's month-long invasion of its neighbour.

            He was identified by a Western official on Friday who also named the seven Russian generals they said had so far been killed in the 30 days since the Russian president ordered his troops into Ukraine on February 24.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • LarryL Offline
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              #69

              You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.

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              • LarryL Larry

                You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #70

                @Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:

                You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.

                Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.

                I think @Renauda can fill in more.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:

                  You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.

                  Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.

                  I think @Renauda can fill in more.

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #71

                  @George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:

                  @Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:

                  You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.

                  Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.

                  Autocracies gonna autocrat.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #72

                    I am the very model of a modern Russian General
                    I headed up a convoy and it didn't really go so well
                    The mud and muck and broken trucks caused our mission to go straight to hell
                    The frozen rain and frostbite are causing all our toes to swell...

                    Ok, somebody take the second stanza...

                    The Brad

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                    • George KG George K

                      Link to video

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                      George K
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                      #73

                      @George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:

                      Link to video

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by George K
                        #74

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                        "Join the Russian army! It’s a lifetime career and the opportunities for promotion right now are incredible!"

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #75

                          None of them came back to life today. I guess they are not the saviors of Ukraine after all.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:

                            You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.

                            Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.

                            I think @Renauda can fill in more.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #76

                            @George-K

                            Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top..

                            The Russians have NCO ranks with similar responsibilities as their western counterparts. At least on paper that is. The difference though is that our NCOs have the authority to act upon their responsibilities. It is their duty and initiative in fulfillment of duty is expected of them. Russian NCOs appear to have rank but no authority. They have very prescribed duties to follow orders from above. As such, they can only be described as NCOs by rank and seniority.

                            Elbows up!

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                              George K
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                              #77

                              Two More?

                              Ukrainian forces have killed two more Russian generals in a strike on a command post near occupied Kherson, authorities said Saturday. That would bring the total tally to at least nine since the start of Russia’s “special operation” against Ukraine on Feb. 24. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry’s Intelligence Directorate announced the strike Saturday, saying the “crushing blow” was dealt to the operations center of the 49th Combined Arms Army of the Russian Armed Forces. The command post, according to Ukraine’s military intelligence, “contrary to common sense… was located just a slight distance” from the front line in the Kherson region. A third Russian general was also severely wounded in the strike, they said. Ukrainian presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych, in an interview with former-lawyer-turned-journalist Mark Feygin on Saturday, said he thinks the third general “will not survive.” He said Ukrainian intelligence is still busy determining the identities of those killed, but there were some 50 high-ranking Russian officers at the command post at the time.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #78

                                https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1603798/putin-ukraine-tenth-russian-general-killed-invasion-Izyum-kharkiv-andrei-simonov

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #79

                                  I worry about when they run out of most or all conventional weapons.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    I worry about when they run out of most or all conventional weapons.

                                    CopperC Offline
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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #80

                                    @Mik said in Top Russian General Killed:

                                    I worry about when they run out of most or all conventional weapons.

                                    They can probably get all they need from Afghanistan

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #81

                                      Interesting. The strike that killed #10 had a different target in mind.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        I worry about when they run out of most or all conventional weapons.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @Mik said in Top Russian General Killed:

                                        I worry about when they run out of most or all conventional weapons.

                                        The anniversary thing is this week.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @Mik said in Top Russian General Killed:

                                          I worry about when they run out of most or all conventional weapons.

                                          The anniversary thing is this week.

                                          RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                          #83

                                          @Aqua-Letifer

                                          9 May Victory Day foofah is next week.

                                          Elbows up!

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