Top Russian General Killed
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@Horace said in Top Russian General Killed:
What's the process for a random American with military experience to volunteer to fight in another country's war?
I had an uncle that retired and then joined the Israeli army.
He was among the first troops into Nagasaki after the bomb, then he had a career in insurance. He was Irish Catholic, but married a Jewish woman who died young from cancer. I believe joining the Israeli army was a gift to her.
Anyway, Israel had this program for foreigners to volunteer. I don't know if they still do. In his 60s I don't think he did any shooting, I think it was mostly administrative work.
wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 20:17 last edited by@Copper said in Top Russian General Killed:
@Horace said in Top Russian General Killed:
What's the process for a random American with military experience to volunteer to fight in another country's war?
I had an uncle that retired and then joined the Israeli army.
He was among the first troops into Nagasaki after the bomb, then he had a career in insurance. He was Irish Catholic, but married a Jewish woman who died young from cancer. I believe joining the Israeli army was a gift to her.
Anyway, Israel had this program for foreigners to volunteer. I don't know if they still do. In his 60s I don't think he did any shooting, I think it was mostly administrative work.
cool.
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wrote on 21 Mar 2022, 00:12 last edited by
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wrote on 21 Mar 2022, 11:40 last edited by
Deputy Commander Of Russia's Black Sea Fleet Reportedly Killed In Action
The deputy commander of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet has been killed in battle near the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, the Kremlin-installed governor of the Russia-occupied city of Sevastopol said.
"Captain 1st Rank Andrei Nikolayevich Paly was killed in the fighting [near Mariupol]," Mikhail Razvozhayev said on his Telegram channel.
Reports said the general was 51 years old.
The Russian Navy did not respond to a request for comment.
Sevastopol, a port city on the Crimea Peninsula, is the base of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Crimea was seized and annexed by Russia in 2014.
If confirmed, it would mark the latest fatality among Russia’s top military officers following reports of several being killed in action during the invasion of Ukraine.
On March 19, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy claimed that the commander of the Russian Eighth Army, Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev, had been killed at the Chornobaivka airfield near the city of Kherson.
The Ukrainian Presidency at the time said the general was the fifth top-ranking officer killed since the invasion began on February 24, an unprecedented number of fatalities among a military leadership in such a short period of time.
The claims could not be independently confirmed.
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Deputy Commander Of Russia's Black Sea Fleet Reportedly Killed In Action
The deputy commander of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet has been killed in battle near the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, the Kremlin-installed governor of the Russia-occupied city of Sevastopol said.
"Captain 1st Rank Andrei Nikolayevich Paly was killed in the fighting [near Mariupol]," Mikhail Razvozhayev said on his Telegram channel.
Reports said the general was 51 years old.
The Russian Navy did not respond to a request for comment.
Sevastopol, a port city on the Crimea Peninsula, is the base of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Crimea was seized and annexed by Russia in 2014.
If confirmed, it would mark the latest fatality among Russia’s top military officers following reports of several being killed in action during the invasion of Ukraine.
On March 19, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy claimed that the commander of the Russian Eighth Army, Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev, had been killed at the Chornobaivka airfield near the city of Kherson.
The Ukrainian Presidency at the time said the general was the fifth top-ranking officer killed since the invasion began on February 24, an unprecedented number of fatalities among a military leadership in such a short period of time.
The claims could not be independently confirmed.
wrote on 21 Mar 2022, 12:12 last edited by@George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:
Deputy Commander Of Russia's Black Sea Fleet Reportedly Killed In Action
The deputy commander of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet has been killed in battle near the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, the Kremlin-installed governor of the Russia-occupied city of Sevastopol said.
"Captain 1st Rank Andrei Nikolayevich Paly was killed in the fighting [near Mariupol]," Mikhail Razvozhayev said on his Telegram channel.
Reports said the general was 51 years old.
The Russian Navy did not respond to a request for comment.
Sevastopol, a port city on the Crimea Peninsula, is the base of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Crimea was seized and annexed by Russia in 2014.
If confirmed, it would mark the latest fatality among Russia’s top military officers following reports of several being killed in action during the invasion of Ukraine.
On March 19, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy claimed that the commander of the Russian Eighth Army, Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev, had been killed at the Chornobaivka airfield near the city of Kherson.
The Ukrainian Presidency at the time said the general was the fifth top-ranking officer killed since the invasion began on February 24, an unprecedented number of fatalities among a military leadership in such a short period of time.
The claims could not be independently confirmed.
A Naval Commander sounds a little less unusual. My bet is he was on one of the ships attacking the city?
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@Horace said in Top Russian General Killed:
What's the process for a random American with military experience to volunteer to fight in another country's war?
I had an uncle that retired and then joined the Israeli army.
He was among the first troops into Nagasaki after the bomb, then he had a career in insurance. He was Irish Catholic, but married a Jewish woman who died young from cancer. I believe joining the Israeli army was a gift to her.
Anyway, Israel had this program for foreigners to volunteer. I don't know if they still do. In his 60s I don't think he did any shooting, I think it was mostly administrative work.
wrote on 21 Mar 2022, 12:20 last edited by@Copper actually they do but as opposed to the past, they screen and vet carefully to avoid having crazies coming to wreak havoc.
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wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 16:05 last edited by
Petraeus:
"Former US army general and CIA director David Petraeus said Ukraine also has "good snipers" which are able to target key individuals when a Russian chain of command breaks down.
He said: "The communications have been jammed. The column gets stopped, and an impatient general goes forward to see what’s going on.
"There’s no initiative, no non-commissioned officer corps, no sense of initiative at junior levels. They wait to be told what to do, and the Ukrainians have very, very good snipers."
An anonymous diplomat also told Foreign Policy that generals were "struggling on the front line to get their orders through".
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wrote on 27 Mar 2022, 11:39 last edited by George K
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wrote on 27 Mar 2022, 11:55 last edited by
@George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:
Ukrainian Propaganda?
One comment was, "Was it suicide or 'suicine'?"
Because of this the Commander of the 13th Regiment of the 4th Guards Tank Division allegedly committed suicide..
What did he know about the Clintons?
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wrote on 27 Mar 2022, 13:34 last edited by
I hope some of our guys in Langley are clever enough to help The Ukrainians make up stuff like this.
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wrote on 27 Mar 2022, 16:46 last edited by
Russian Army Commander General Vlaislav Yershov, of the 6th Combined Arms Army, has been identified as the general sacked earlier this week by Vladimir Putin.
It has been reported his abrupt dismissal was due to the heavy losses and strategic failures seen during the Russian military's month-long invasion of its neighbour.
He was identified by a Western official on Friday who also named the seven Russian generals they said had so far been killed in the 30 days since the Russian president ordered his troops into Ukraine on February 24.
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wrote on 27 Mar 2022, 16:52 last edited by
You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
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You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
wrote on 27 Mar 2022, 16:55 last edited by@Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:
You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.
I think @Renauda can fill in more.
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@Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:
You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.
I think @Renauda can fill in more.
wrote on 27 Mar 2022, 16:59 last edited by@George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:
@Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:
You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.
Autocracies gonna autocrat.
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wrote on 27 Mar 2022, 18:10 last edited by
I am the very model of a modern Russian General
I headed up a convoy and it didn't really go so well
The mud and muck and broken trucks caused our mission to go straight to hell
The frozen rain and frostbite are causing all our toes to swell...Ok, somebody take the second stanza...
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wrote on 16 Apr 2022, 23:14 last edited by George K
"Join the Russian army! It’s a lifetime career and the opportunities for promotion right now are incredible!"
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wrote on 17 Apr 2022, 12:27 last edited by
None of them came back to life today. I guess they are not the saviors of Ukraine after all.
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@Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:
You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.
I think @Renauda can fill in more.
wrote on 17 Apr 2022, 14:23 last edited by RenaudaSeveral people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top..
The Russians have NCO ranks with similar responsibilities as their western counterparts. At least on paper that is. The difference though is that our NCOs have the authority to act upon their responsibilities. It is their duty and initiative in fulfillment of duty is expected of them. Russian NCOs appear to have rank but no authority. They have very prescribed duties to follow orders from above. As such, they can only be described as NCOs by rank and seniority.
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wrote on 24 Apr 2022, 19:53 last edited by
Ukrainian forces have killed two more Russian generals in a strike on a command post near occupied Kherson, authorities said Saturday. That would bring the total tally to at least nine since the start of Russia’s “special operation” against Ukraine on Feb. 24. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry’s Intelligence Directorate announced the strike Saturday, saying the “crushing blow” was dealt to the operations center of the 49th Combined Arms Army of the Russian Armed Forces. The command post, according to Ukraine’s military intelligence, “contrary to common sense… was located just a slight distance” from the front line in the Kherson region. A third Russian general was also severely wounded in the strike, they said. Ukrainian presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych, in an interview with former-lawyer-turned-journalist Mark Feygin on Saturday, said he thinks the third general “will not survive.” He said Ukrainian intelligence is still busy determining the identities of those killed, but there were some 50 high-ranking Russian officers at the command post at the time.
